Off Topic Politics Thread

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The Ides of March said:
There is something very likeable about this person, and in contrast with Johnson, Mogg, Cox, and Patel, he appears to be a very unassuming individual, understanding even. If he is standing as an Independent, I would vote for him as he is standing apart from the divisions of party politics.
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I think he’s a thoroughly decent chap, in the Tom Brown’s Schooldays manner. Boris is Flashman, the school bully. Both are anachronisms and surplus to requirements in the post colonial age, but at least Rory has integrity.
 
At the rate of people leaving the tories and going to independents there is obviously enough to suggest the tories will be done for in the next election........I am very surprised that labour are frightened of losing. Surely there is enough people against leaving in all parties etc....to put it to the vote to just abandon Brexit altogether...........So why don't these parties just get together and try and get that through. Something aint right with that lot and need to be cleared out.......
 
Beddytare said:
At the rate of people leaving the tories and going to independents there is obviously enough to suggest the tories will be done for in the next election........I am very surprised that labour are frightened of losing. Surely there is enough people against leaving in all parties etc....to put it to the vote to just abandon Brexit altogether...........So why don't these parties just get together and try and get that through. Something aint right with that lot and need to be cleared out.......
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Chuka Umuna is our man of the future Beddy. Very talented, principled, shares our values of integration and is very Cosmopolitan. How we miss the great days of Tony Blair and John Prescott!!!
 
Just shows what a powder-keg of a political situation is going on in the USA. The other day, Trump alluded to a "civil war" situation if the Democrats successfully impeach him from office. Which, according to a Harvard Law Professor, is another impeachable offence in itself:
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-civil-war-tweet-grounds-impeachment-1462044

So here is Trump's tweet, with the Law Professor's retweet over the top:
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And here is the response from a body called "The 3%":
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The USA is getting to be quite a dangerous and unstable place. Democracy is standing by and Trump is now daring it to come and get him. We're standing on a precipice here. What goes on in the various parts of the western world has a major effect elsewhere. And the USA has a bigger influence than most. Ok, the ordinary people here won't be bearing any arms, but they could riot. Provoked by the UK's own extreme right-wing agenda.
 
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Yesterday, it was reported in the USA [as first revealed in The Times] that Trump has been in contact with other world leaders [apart from Ukraine and China] in order to muddy the waters on his 2016 election, the Mueller report, and dirt on political rivals. This is all impeachable action. What is interesting here is that it is very pertinant to the UK:

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Worth watching to the very end.
 
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ChilcoSaint said:
By the way, this is well worth a watch...
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That's great. All done in a Gilbert and Sullivan mode. Classy. I'm downloading that one. <laugh>

I am the very model of a prejudiced Etonian
My diction is impeccable, my politics draconian,
I’m quite the polar opposite of what you’d call revisionist
And though I went to public school, at least I’m not a Wykehamist
I’m keeping the tradition of the gentry ent’ring politics
How else are we to keep away the Corbynista Bolsheviks
So through my vivid promises of dividends most decorous
I’ve mobilised the Brexiteers to levels quite obstreperous
I whip them up to frenzy in a manner so Pavlovian
They do not seem to see that it’s increasingly dystopian
So here I stand before you like a skeletal Napoleon
I am the very model of a prejudiced Etonian

I’ve studied all the Classics from Herodotus to Sophocles
How else am I to criticise my colleagues’ etymologies?
Perhaps that’s why I vote against most freedoms and equalities
These authors are about as old as most of my philosophies!
I know of all the backwards Parliament’ry curiosities
Like letting Commons’ priv’lege keep me safe to spout atrocities
I know the terminologies, chronologies and glossaries
And yet I still behave as if we never lost our colonies.
I often drain the public funds to renovate my properties
Although I have more money than some smaller world economies
I never make apologies for lack of reciprocities
Despite the fact that swathes of Britons lack basic commodities!

My views on social issues haven’t changed much since the Tudor times
I rage against the slightest change to long-outdated paradigms
I lack the base ability to sympathise or empathise
My Commons’ sprawl exemplifies the privilege I symbolise
When criticised on Women’s Rights I hide behind Catholicism
Bending it to justify my heart-of-stone Conservatism,
Yet I sound the clarion of fear of fundamentalism
Without seeming to acknowledge this inherent dualism,
I try to paint a picture of a Brexit most utopian
And when they all explain to me the likely pandemonium
I patronise my critics with my methods Ciceronian
I am the very model of a prejudiced Etonian.
 
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I am curently Reading Ian Marchant´s "Parallel Lines" in which he writes about not only actual train journeys around the UK, but blends it with a terrific social critique. In his view, railway privitisation was not for the benefit of the travelling public but for the shareholders. So transferring this to the health service where parts have been sold off to private companies, does the same principle apply whereby these companies exist for profit and not for the benefit us in general.
 
The Ides of March said:
I am curently Reading Ian Marchant´s "Parallel Lines" in which he writes about not only actual train journeys around the UK, but blends it with a terrific social critique. In his view, railway privitisation was not for the benefit of the travelling public but for the shareholders. So transferring this to the health service where parts have been sold off to private companies, does the same principle apply whereby these companies exist for profit and not for the benefit us in general.
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I honestly can’t believe you find it necessary to even ask that question!
 
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The Ides of March said:
I am curently Reading Ian Marchant´s "Parallel Lines" in which he writes about not only actual train journeys around the UK, but blends it with a terrific social critique. In his view, railway privitisation was not for the benefit of the travelling public but for the shareholders. So transferring this to the health service where parts have been sold off to private companies, does the same principle apply whereby these companies exist for profit and not for the benefit us in general.
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I won't be as damming as Chilco :rolleyes:, I'll just say that what you suspect is almost certainly the truth. :)
 
TheSecondStain said:
I don't like admitting it for some reason, but I'm going to "come out". It was my birthday last Saturday. I accidently let out a clue back then, which was not intended, but I'm going for it. What the hell. <laugh>

And Happy Birthday Jabbo.
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I hope you didn't have any candles on your cake. Think of the environment!!!!
 
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