From Wat Tyler to The Levellers, to the General Strike of 1926, this country has a long history of not quite overthrowing the ruling classes, but still generating reform as a result of pressure from below.
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From Wat Tyler to The Levellers, to the General Strike of 1926, this country has a long history of not quite overthrowing the ruling classes, but still generating reform as a result of pressure from below.
I am not ****ing joking. I am already having problems and am seriously very worried and its not just me but tens of thousands of other people and not all of them old gits you will be pleased to see the back of.
Hang in there, St G. Us Remainers ain't done yet. And even if this country does part with Europe, we are not stopping. Leavers think it'll all be over? Think again.
I am looking for similar events in British History. You would have thought that after the Suez fiasco that Labour would have won the next election. Alas, it was three years later and after a change of leader for the then ruling Conservative party. After the fiasco of Brexit, that might be delivered, there will be deep rancour within the ranks of the present Conservative party, that a new leader will be need to take them forward to the next election. (Rory Stewart has been clever here).
The other event was the Profumo scandal which cost MacMillan his premiership, brought Home to the fore who was no match for the brilliant Harold Wilson. I hope the 1963/4 scenario is closer to the outcome of the 2019/20 course of history than 1956.
It is a crying shame that Harold Wilson´s Labour party was not re-elected in1970. We would not have had the Northern Irish troubles for starters. Harold would have been able to handle Sinn Fein/IRA much better than the Tories have ever managed.
I think you missed the blue
No, that would be mean and disrespectful
It is no laughing matter. At the moment we are experiencing a shortage of many life saving medicines because of Brexit. The really worrying one is the shortage of EpiPens ( correctly epinephrine autoinjectors) used by many young people with life threatening allergies.
I'm a bit relieved it's not just me. Massive problems getting my heart/blood pressure tablets over the last year.
Mostly it seems to be a communication problem as they and the GP surgery switch to new 'systems'.
They reduced me to tears a few months ago after a series of cockups left me without medication for nearly two weeks, with the (under pressure) pharmacist suggesting it was my fault it some way. I had to write requesting the surgery stop issuing electronic prescriptions and insist on physically picking them up and taking them to a pharmacist, not always an option for some.
A shame as electronic presciptions can work well. Mrs greensaint is the on call clinician in west Dorset psychiactric inpatient services at times. She no longer HAS to drive from Wimborne to Dorchester at 3am just because someone forgot to sign a brufen PRN prescription the day before.
On the plus side I was rather chuffed when I turned 60 to find my prescriptions were free.
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It is not just because of Brexit.......the EU too is short of these medicines............
(From the Pharmaceutical journal)
EU must investigate medicines shortages say hospital pharmacists
24 JUN 2019 9:33
European hospital pharmacists are demanding that the EU launches an investigation into medicines shortages.
There appears to be a manufacturing problem...for once not caused by Brexit...........
US President Donald Trump, speaking to a right-wing youth organisation in Washington DC, said Mr Johnson and Mr Farage would do "tremendous things" together.
What on earth is going on in the world when youth are being immersed in right-wing organisations? This is trully depressing in the extreme. In our day, we would start out on the left and gradually modify our feelings and thoughts until some of us became "Blair" babes. That is about as right-wing we can tolerate. Any further and you are encountering lunatic territory.
What on earth is going on in the world when youth are being immersed in right-wing organisations? This is trully depressing in the extreme. In our day, we would start out on the left and gradually modify our feelings and thoughts until some of us became "Blair" babes. That is about as right-wing we can tolerate. Any further and you are encountering lunatic territory.
That article states that the EU needs closer collaboration. Doesn't exactly support the idea Brexit isn't creating a shortage.
As I kept having to tell Imps on here, one cause doesnt rule out others. Often they multiply. Like a recession hitting a person already in debt.
So Bunter´s misssion is to:
1. Deliver Brexit
2. Unite the country
3. Defeat Corbyn
4. Energise Britain.
I´ll start with two. Uniting the country will be rather tricky as he does not even have a united party. On the same topic, this is a false claim as he has often atended DUP conferences, which indicates that he supports a party that is very partisan, sectarian, divisive in its outlooks and very narrow minded..
I will leave the rest for others to comment on.
My own feeling is that political parties on the British mainland should be impartial, and have no affiliations with any Northern Irish party that is partisan, . I would begin to give Bunter some respect if he dissociated his party completely from the DUP. His Government doesn´t need their support.
1. Deliver Brexit
2. Unite the country
3. Defeat Corbyn
4. Energise Britain.
I´ll start with two. Uniting the country will be rather tricky as he does not even have a united party. On the same topic, this is a false claim as he has often atended DUP conferences, which indicates that he supports a party that is very partisan, sectarian, divisive in its outlooks and very narrow minded..
I will leave the rest for others to comment on.
My own feeling is that political parties on the British mainland should be impartial, and have no affiliations with any Northern Irish party that is partisan, . I would begin to give Bunter some respect if he dissociated his party completely from the DUP. His Government doesn´t need their support.
You are still missing the point..............The EU itself is also short of these medicines which is nowt to do with Brexit whatsoever. There has been a shortage for a few years and pharmacies have been struggling for around 4/5 years over this..............That means before the Brexit referendum even.......
The truth is I think ....None of the main UK parties has a single mind. All are split............We have little choice but to hope he can do what he says.............I like the rest of you have my doubts but there it is...........
It’s not just a feeling Ides, impartiality is enshrined in the Good Friday Agreement. Theresa May broke the spirit of the Good Friday Agreement when she enlisted the support of the DUP.
As is well known, Boris doesn’t have a majority, and even with the DUP it’s wafer thin. 2 Tory MP’s crossing the floor this afternoon means he can’t form a government. Even if he can, several Tories have already flagged up that they will vote against him in a Confidence Motion.