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Beddytare said:
My understanding was he with others were canvassing for the remain side prior to the referendum. As far as I know he has not changed his mind.
I understand he would prefer an agreement.......rather than leave with no deal.
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His policies shown above mean that he's definitely, 100%, changed his mind. Factually, those policies deliver Brexit.

Leaving with a deal is leaving.

Vin
 
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TheSecondStain said:
You're conveniently forgetting one thing Beddy. None of our neighbours are making a play to become the country's Prime Minister. The position requires the highest standards of behaviour, as an example to the nation, or so that used to be the case. So, 'we can hear neighbours on a daily basis' gets nowhere near cutting it.
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No mate not forgetting..........oh and for the record am no fan of Boris! I cannot believe people are making so much over a row between him and his partner. Going back in History Winston Churchill was known to have one hell of a temper. He and his wife were forever arguing. As were some of the others that followed him.
 
The saddest thing to come out of this Boris row issue, and the manhandling of the climate change woman, is that some people think it is acceptable behaviour.
Yesterday morning I watched the locals, in Torrevieja, Costa Blanca, taking part in a charity fund raiser in support of female equality and to fight against abusive behaviour towards women.
As this is my adopted, second home, I was proud of their efforts.
What I am witnessing from certain MPs, and political parties, in the UK, fills me with disgust.
Oh, and the Tory nomination for the By Election (Brecon?) is going to be the same person who was convicted of fiddling his expenses and given a no confidence vote, pushing him out of office thus forcing the by-election. <doh>
The race to the bottom is gathering pace.
 
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Beddytare said:
No mate not forgetting..........oh and for the record am no fan of Boris! I cannot believe people are making so much over a row between him and his partner. Going back in History Winston Churchill was known to have one hell of a temper. He and his wife were forever arguing. As were some of the others that followed him.
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I know you're not a fan of Boris. However, perhaps you're not as unforgiving as I am of liars, who do it for self betterment in a world of service to a country. For starters, remember that Boris is instinctively a Remainer. He changed because he saw it was good for him, not because he saw any spectral light of truth. Going back into history, one never heard about ill behaviour, because the Press toed the line, but at least those people had the class to argue in private anyway. To those Ministers and PMs, service was still something they put first before themselves. Or at least they said so and that was the perception. Johnson doesn't even know what service to the nation means.

And when I call Johnson a buffoon, I'm actually praising him. I could call him racist, a misogynist. He displays xenophobia, is a liar [mentioned before], is self-serving, and therefore unpatriotic, and the best animal for getting the Tories out of office. So at least he has one redeeming feature. But I'd prefer it if he didn't get a chance to access that.
 
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TheSecondStain said:
I know you're not a fan of Boris. However, perhaps you're not as unforgiving as I am of liars, who do it for self betterment in a world of service to a country. For starters, remember that Boris is instinctively a Remainer. He changed because he saw it was good for him, not because he saw any spectral light of truth. Going back into history, one never heard about ill behaviour, because the Press toed the line, but at least those people had the class to argue in private anyway. To those Ministers and PMs, service was still something they put first before themselves. Or at least they said so and that was the perception. Johnson doesn't even know what service to the nation means.

And when I call Johnson a buffoon, I'm actually praising him. I could call him racist, a misogynist. He displays xenophobia, is a liar [mentioned before], is self-serving, and therefore unpatriotic, and the best animal for getting the Tories out of office. So at least he has one redeeming feature. But I'd prefer it if he didn't get a chance to access that.
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Sounds like you don't go much on him either.......<laugh>
 
TheSecondStain said:
I know you're not a fan of Boris. However, perhaps you're not as unforgiving as I am of liars, who do it for self betterment in a world of service to a country. For starters, remember that Boris is instinctively a Remainer. He changed because he saw it was good for him, not because he saw any spectral light of truth. Going back into history, one never heard about ill behaviour, because the Press toed the line, but at least those people had the class to argue in private anyway. To those Ministers and PMs, service was still something they put first before themselves. Or at least they said so and that was the perception. Johnson doesn't even know what service to the nation means.

And when I call Johnson a buffoon, I'm actually praising him. I could call him racist, a misogynist. He displays xenophobia, is a liar [mentioned before], is self-serving, and therefore unpatriotic, and the best animal for getting the Tories out of office. So at least he has one redeeming feature. But I'd prefer it if he didn't get a chance to access that.
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Boris is possibly the worst example around in this country at the moment, but hardly any of the Tory Party show any sign of following the Churchillian code for MP’s of country first, constituency second, party third, and self-interest a distant fourth. With practically all of them, especially the hard-Brexiteers, self-interest is the prime directive, the thing that gets them out of bed in the morning, and what they dream of when they sleep. They don’t advocate leaving the EU because it’s the Will of the People, or because it will be in any way good for the country, but because it will be good for their pockets, and good for their financial backers. In short, none of the Conservative and Unionist Party MP’s actually represent the best interests of anything other than a tiny fraction of their constituents, and it beggars belief why anyone should even consider ever voting for them again.
 
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Beddytare said:
For goodness sake folks.......it does sound to me the whole thing is being exaggerated somewhat........We can hear neighbours almost on a daily basis shouting and hollering at each other. Even crashing and banging as they are arguing. Even the words let go of me...........Why would we ring the police...........Sorry you'll never convince me it wasn't a set up to earn a few bob from the papers. How many of us have a recorder to hand to listen to a neighbours rowing?? Nah total rubbish
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<laugh> Nearly all of us have recorders to hand nowadays mate - I’m willing to bet you do too.

They’re called phones.
 
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