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down to 7 twats. (just looked up how to join the Tory party so I could vote - 25 quid donation but you have to be a member for 3 months) Missed opportunity.

It will be interesting to see how the votes of those eliminated are re-distributed among the remaining candidates. As two are to the right, the main beneficiaries will undoubtedly be Raab and Johnson. Raab could well be out in the next round as it is a waste of time having two guys serving up the same dish. I feel many who oppose Johnson will be behind Hunt as he has more "clout" than Javiid, Harper or Stewart. As I said a few days ago, it will be Johnson v Hunt, as Gove does not have the charisma to go to the final two.

PS: Actually none of them have the charisma of Tony Blair, or the authority of Margaret Thatcher. When the show is over, I hope the Tories continue to fight and fall out as there are likely to be sections of the party unhappy with Johnson, particularly those who want a negotiated "Brexit," and if Johnson wants Brexit by October 31 he is going to have to agree to what Theresa May managed to agree and dress it up as something new. This will be great news because sections of the Tory party will then see Johnson as having surrendered, the outcome being a vote of no confidence in him, and a new Tory PM will be installed in early 2020.
 
What a load of rubbish, not the article but the candidates? My prediction the final two will be Hunt, and one of either Gove or Johnson. Oh, how we miss the great days of Blair and Brown, and further back, Harold Wilson in the late 60s.
Unless Bonkers losers supporters from where he is now, he has to be one of the last 2 as he’s already got more than a third of all Tory MP’s votes. What a state we are in!
 
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I haven't looked at the details but the Tory party must be in a heck of a state if they make that buffoon Johnson their best candidate for leader. It has been said that the quality of their MPs and ministers has been diving for years, and I think they may have just reached their nadir. Almost impossible for me to accept that any one of them will be PM in a few weeks.
 
I haven't looked at the details but the Tory party must be in a heck of a state if they make that buffoon Johnson their best candidate for leader. It has been said that the quality of their MPs and ministers has been diving for years, and I think they may have just reached their nadir. Almost impossible for me to accept that any one of them will be PM in a few weeks.
The thing is about Johnson is that he's not a buffoon. That's just for show. He's one of the more intelligent people in the country. I'm not saying he will make a good PM but he's not an idiot.
 
The thing is about Johnson is that he's not a buffoon. That's just for show. He's one of the more intelligent people in the country. I'm not saying he will make a good PM but he's not an idiot.


You're right, he's no fool. He is however, duplicitous, self-serving, dishones, lazy and incompetent. Quiet possibly the worst foreign secretary of all time, as Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe's family will confirm. And don't even get me started on his stint as Mayor of London
 
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It is possible to be highly intelligent and an idiot at the same time. I have worked with many intelligent graduate students, who fast tracked into management, who didn’t have a clue how to manage. Boris is just one of many who have gone before him.
With tensions rising in the Middle East, with Iran, and the price of oil rising, the last two people we need leading the USA and the UK, are Trump and Johnson.
Cue another war for a President/PM to get involved in, to show how tough he is, whilst sending working class troops to face the bullets and bombs.
 
I haven't looked at the details but the Tory party must be in a heck of a state if they make that buffoon Johnson their best candidate for leader. It has been said that the quality of their MPs and ministers has been diving for years, and I think they may have just reached their nadir. Almost impossible for me to accept that any one of them will be PM in a few weeks.

Get used to it buddy its going to bloody happen!!
 
The thing is about Johnson is that he's not a buffoon. That's just for show. He's one of the more intelligent people in the country. I'm not saying he will make a good PM but he's not an idiot.

Certainly straight talking.........
 
You're right, he's no fool. He is however, duplicitous, self-serving, dishones, lazy and incompetent. Quiet possibly the worst foreign secretary of all time, as Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe's family will confirm. And don't even get me started on his stint as Mayor of London

Err where’s the evidence he’s intelligent?
He’s the product of a privileged upbringing and the English public school system which provides a certain social credibility for all but the more intellectually inept
 
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Err where’s the evidence he’s intelligent?
He’s the product of a privileged upbringing and the English public school system which provides a certain social credibility for all but the more intellectually inept


He got a good degree from Balliol College, Oxford. Privilege might have got him into Eton, and Eton might have eased his path to Oxford, but Oxford don't award degrees to dunces. Both his journalism and political careers are characterised by an odd mix of laziness, ambition, wit and cunning.

Don't underestimate him - he's smart. Smart enough to succeed despite all his obvious weaknesses.
 
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