well that's not very funny. This is though
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In our case we have access to their financial situation as they'd be our tenants and if they are struggling they'd likely be working with our financial advisors and welfare benefit officers who we have contact them if they start getting behind on rent and are likely the ones to give them the food vouchers we use.
Lost interest after the first sentence, no faith in the current system and those that work in it. The MEP results will be spun and manipulated with both sides calling themselves the winner. The whole country is the loser.The story about "donations received via its website" is about the <£500 donations. The EC itself is talking about donations above £500. The tweets that triggered this and prompted Brown, and others, to chime in (followed by the EC deciding it would to) were the same as Bennett's where they were pointing to the fact that you can write any name and be from anywhere and donate <£500.
So the narrative of the story is ignoring the actual detail here. We have "up in arms" statements devoted to attacking the <£500 (£499) part of it, and the EC detailing the rules as they are yet are going in to check on >£500 (because there is nothing they can do about <£500 donations.)
Watch and read the news about it. They are all talking about the <£500 donations in their story about the EC going in to investigate.
Now of course there is also the "foreign money" rule which could well be something BP fall foul of however we would then be led to believe that other parties do not receive money from overseas, when the reality is that they do, and a lot of it. Normally because someone has set up "UK based" organisations that they fund and then that UK organisation is the one that makes the donations. The CHuk one is a prime example of that.
Even then the EC confirmed to buzzfeed (in the thread at the bottom further down
I checked this with the Electoral Commission a few weeks ago and their response was that “Political parties can receive sums of money from foreign nationals if it’s under £500.”
Soros funded organisations (yes him again) also do this and yes they are subject to the same rules because they are "non party campaigns" because they qualify, just as @bydonkeys do as "non party campaigns" because they actively campaign against voting a particular way and they actively promote voting for a party or parties. People's vote is the same, all of the "not people's vote but they actually are" groups that the EC ignored are as well because they actively campaign against Brexit and thus they are funded via "charidees" or "activist groups" that are themselves funded by Soros and others that are not UK based. These donations however are above the £500 threshold and thus cannot avoid the "UK based" rules nor anonymity.
the whole setup across the board (including the Brexit Party) is the problem here in that the rules are there to be ignored by way of loopholes and the equivalent of creative accounting.
This was where it all kicked up. This story is all about <£500 donations, implying it is a BP thing, ignoring they are all doing the same and then the media reports the EC going in to investigate based on this story that all the reman bigwigs and twitterati have jumped on:
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IT is funny. The South East is the most populated region in the Eu elections. it gets 10 MEPs because of this yet it is also the 2nd most supportive of the BrexitParty. Must be terrible living down there with the amount of ill informed uneducated yobbo racists stormtropping around the streets.
Oh and the article is quite funny too.
My daughter (Sam King - remember that name!) bless her cotton socks, has been out canvassing with the Labour candidate for Gloucester. She's actually doing something, not rattling bollocks on the internet. Hasn't been "shaked" but probably has enough door slams to put together a good percussion album
Grayling is a prime example of the incompetence, look what's happened now.
Chris Grayling throws milkshake at himself – and misses.
Whoops missed the earlier post.
"South East Region - 10 MEPs
Comprises: Isle of Wight, East Sussex, West Sussex, Hampshire, Kent, Surrey, Berkshire, Oxfordshire, Buckinghamshire"
Seems it is your region that is the hotbed of UKIP (former) with Farage, Diane James and another that is still a kipper..........plus you have Dan Hannan.
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/unitedkingdom/en/european-elections/uk_meps.html
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That seems reasonable I am not sure what restrictions should have been there. My granddaughter by the way still spoke to them on the quiet I believe. They gave her back most of what was taken. She is taking it back tomorrow morning I gather...Bless her
When Jamie Oliver`s Italian closed in Aberdeen 2 or 3 years ago, he blamed the Scottish referendum, as I recall. Now the rest have gone bust, he`s blaming ` market conditions`. I wonder if it`s crossed his mind that the real reason is that the food was $hit ?
I'm not really saying there should be restrictions or not on public foodbanks, i don't know a lot about those myself. but another thing i will say is a lot of these people won't always have been poverty, they might even work, or had worked recently and could have afforded a car. The majority of our residents in social housing work. But that doesn't stop them getting into a spiral of debt or getting sanctioned for some bullshit reason and running out of food. Fuel would be more questionable to me.
They've improved on this now but there were lots of people who weren't getting any money at all for 6 weeks while their benefits were switched over to universal credit. during the trials we had 4x more arrears on average with those on the universal credit trials. God knows why they didn't sort something out then rather than waiting so long after the rollout to start addressing some of these issues.
So your point is twats live everywhere? Or that the more people there are in an area the more chance of a twat?
Think so, though it feels like it should be classed as the South West with Dorset in my mind.
Could be worse, I live in the south west, we've got Ann Widecombe screeching her mating call and that saakon douchebag.
Yeh, not my region Imps. I live in the London Borough of Haringey; highest remain vote in the country at around 75%
Probably because those at the top of the house running the show are grossly incompetent. If I did my job the way the government have done theirs, I`d have been sacked long ago. It`ll be interesting to see how the Tories and Labour do in the polls tomorrow - how anyone could vote for them given how they`ve showed up over Brexit in the last 2 or 3 years is beyond me.
I will vote tomorrow as I always do.
It feels like a citizen duty, and of course gives me an excuse to moan about the result, weather, kids these days and the price of beer.
I have little idea who I'll vote for.
Much of the scorn and insults directed at leave inclined bods like me* ignores the factor these European elections always highlight. Their relative unimportance as the Euro Parliament seems about as much use as an Adam Lallana stepover, all show.
This was the primary reason I was inclined to vote leave, sick of the gravy train the likes of the odious Farage had slurped from for years while in effect acting as a fig leaf for those in real (often appointed) power.
*Before the predictable accusations of racist/nazi/puppykiller it may save me that, after talking to my twin 17yr daughters who missed a vote by a few months I offered my vote to them and voted to stay. Strangely this itself has attracted venom from both sides, can't win really.
It feels like a citizen duty, and of course gives me an excuse to moan about the result, weather, kids these days and the price of beer.
I have little idea who I'll vote for.
Much of the scorn and insults directed at leave inclined bods like me* ignores the factor these European elections always highlight. Their relative unimportance as the Euro Parliament seems about as much use as an Adam Lallana stepover, all show.
This was the primary reason I was inclined to vote leave, sick of the gravy train the likes of the odious Farage had slurped from for years while in effect acting as a fig leaf for those in real (often appointed) power.
*Before the predictable accusations of racist/nazi/puppykiller it may save me that, after talking to my twin 17yr daughters who missed a vote by a few months I offered my vote to them and voted to stay. Strangely this itself has attracted venom from both sides, can't win really.
Over-priced was another!! And perhaps his business structure was not so good.
More proof that our beloved incumbant government heaped totally unnecessary austerity onto UK citizens:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48354692
This is what I mean by 'long memory'. Never let these people back in. If another government trips up over hard times, never let Tories or right-wing parties back in with their promises of tax cuts. It's a total illusion. Findings like this should convince even the dullest individual that right-wing government is only catering to a small section of society, which gets smaller and smaller as hardship grows, leaving a great swathe to exist on the smallest of welfare help. And there are groups who are quite ready to make this even smaller as an 'incentive' to get out of poverty. The reality is that the present path this PM seems hell bent on sending us down, because for one brief moment in time a tiny majority of the voting public wanted it, will hasten the removal of jobs anyway.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48354692
This is what I mean by 'long memory'. Never let these people back in. If another government trips up over hard times, never let Tories or right-wing parties back in with their promises of tax cuts. It's a total illusion. Findings like this should convince even the dullest individual that right-wing government is only catering to a small section of society, which gets smaller and smaller as hardship grows, leaving a great swathe to exist on the smallest of welfare help. And there are groups who are quite ready to make this even smaller as an 'incentive' to get out of poverty. The reality is that the present path this PM seems hell bent on sending us down, because for one brief moment in time a tiny majority of the voting public wanted it, will hasten the removal of jobs anyway.