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Who couldn't have predicted that 40 odd days ago? What a monumental waste of time and money the last three years have been. Lasting damage to our economy, our diplomatic standing and huge cost to those that can least afford it. Never mind we have our special relationship with the Orange one, I'm sure the Froglodyte will use his influence to get the best trade deal ever.
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You can twist words if you want. No-one said Labour are losing their votes. They are not immune however. All that was spoken about (by me) is that they are losing a chunk. The YouGov poll from beginning of March said that 12% of BrexitParty answers voted Labour in 2017. The only numbers it gave were Tory, Labour and Lib Dems. Of course Tory was 60% or something like that.
The point was that all the talk is as if the Brexit Party's polling is all ex Tory or UKIP with Labour and others unaffected..........which is not the case.
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Nope. You can twist words or imagine what I said all you like. I said Labour would use a chunk of their votes. They will lose more than the 12% that voted Labour in 2017 but now say they will vote Brexit Party IF they ever admit they are a remain party. Labour's vote is mostly remain. They are holding on to most of that remain vote. they have a lot of leave voters in there sitll because they still won't admit what they want to do. The leadership say one thing. Adonis and Starmer say something else. Adonis is still tweeting "vote Labour to stop Brexit." Corbyn is still saying they want to fulfill Brexit.
So it is you that's talking bollocks because you can't read and understand things properly. You read my words "Labour will lose a chunk of their vote" and you immediately interpret it as Labour will lose all their votes." I would suggest you deliberately mis represent my words, while moaning about "fake news" from the right wing.
why post that Imps? if you want to be taken seriously? but as you have said, you don't. Verrall was born in 1948
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Your words "Labour will lose a chunk of their vote" my words "Labour were going to lose massively with no mention of the Tory catastrophe?". Your words again "you immediately interpret it as Labour will lose all their votes.". "Massive" is not "all" but similar to "chunk" no "mis" there you get the badge.
Understand to, it's not that difficult, this is not left/right partisan politics the go/stay is cross party hence the lack of consensus and three years of total bollocks. I'm well outside the left right divide, man the ****ing barricades. BtB&B,FOF. FOBYAC!
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This is brilliant.
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Me taken seriously? Snopes is the "factchecker" that facebook uses to decided what is and isn't fake news in their "fight to tackle fake news."
I merely fed you their "analysis" from the link below. And if you are certain that it is way off the mark then we should really be questioning their abilities, shouldn't we:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nigel-farage-martin-webster-photo/
That still doesn't mean it is him in the photo. Not saying it isn't. It might be, but sticking up a backstory from the Indie does not = "means photo must be him."
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They will lose a chunk of their vote. they won't lose massively. Who gives a fig about the Tory catastrophe at his point? They f***ed it up. They elected someone who said she would do something but continually went against her own words. F*** the Tories.
In my book massive means massive. Chunks can be big or small. Massive suggests huge. Chunk suggests a quantity. So you interpret me saying chunk as being massive, huge 50%? I used chunk to mean a significant proportion. 15-20%. Reason no mention of the Tory catastrophe is above. Who cares what happens to them now.
On that article look at the picture "next to the NF chap" look at the lines from his mouth edges to his jaw. Look at the Varrall picture. Then look at the 2 pictures of Farage young and in his adulthood. Farage does not have those lines in either picture from his mouth edge to his jaw. Varrall does.
Not saying it isn't Farage and I should think he will be questioned sufficiently on the photo in the coming days.
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So your point is that if someone had certain views in their past then they still do? Being inspired by Enoch, pushing anti-immigration and repatriation policies? Maybe Bercow should be strung up at the same time as Farage then? Guilty, both of them by that assertion. Bercow was also eurosceptic and was in the ERG you all hate!!
And we won't hear anymore dismissiveness of all the Labour MPs who said things years/decades ago?
Farage’s part in the Leave campaign was blatantly racist, telling lies about Turkey joining the EU and showing posters of Syrian refugees with the title “Breaking Point”. So yes, in Nigel’s case certainly, once a fascist, always a fascist.
Oh please. This is now a definite case of uncomfortable squirming. Everybody. EVERYBODY in public life carries baggage. Usually there's a straw which breaks the politician's back. NF's back was broken a long, long time ago.
Telling lies about Turkey joining the EU...............based on Cameron and others telling lies that Turkey would be fast-tracked to join!!!
Syrian refugees amongst mass hordes of economic migrants not from Syria!!!
I agree with the earlier part here but considering you think the straw broke a long time ago despite being attacked more times than any other politician, then I would not say it was broken at all, judging by the current state of affairs.
None of whom were actually entitled to enter the UK, apart from the paltry 20,000 we grudgingly agreed on.