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This might cover it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35616946
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I see that the DUP we’re supporting Leave. Didn’t consider the border then, I guess.
Amid a lot of excitement at Westminster with Ministers saying the letters are in and Graham Brady already having arranged to meet the PM after PMQs tomorrow, there is a suggestion that May told EU officials she was going to pull the WA vote 24 hours before she told her own cabinet ministers. This maybe what pushed it over the line so easily this time.
She told the EU she was pulling the vote before Gove and others were sent out all morning saying it was still on!!!
She told the EU she was pulling the vote before Gove and others were sent out all morning saying it was still on!!!
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Doesnt matter what is behind any facade as wages can only go down massively without globalism. Doesnt matter how much control you have if your only options are down or down.
Theresa May is a complete coward. She cancelled today's vote at the last minute knowing full well she would lose the vote and have a no-confidence vote triggered against her by Labour. Now she faces the same vote but by her own party instead which is even worse! She is an awful PM and should resign to spare her the embarrassment of being forced out by her own party (although I would find that quite amusing).
You're way off the mark there. Labour have not and will not call a no-confidence vote because they would lose it. DUP have already said they would support the government in a confidence vote and Tories are not going to vote against themselves. Labour would have already triggered that vote if they thought they could win it.
And no she does not now face the same vote from her own MPS. This is an internal vote of no confidence by a party with their leader. The Opposition / Labour are talking about a no-confidence by the HoC in the government. And they don't have the numbers to win so they don't trigger one.
The only way they will win one is at a point where by-elections OR Tories crossing the floor make those numbers up.
So you are confusing 2 different things here and deciding she is running scared of Labour triggering a vote when they have no intention of doing so.
We keep hearing about timing and numbers. If those 48 letters had gone in 2 weeks ago then May would probably have won a no confidence vote. 2 weeks or so on, she ditches the vote the rest were waiting for so they could put their letters in after a massive defeat, has a nightmare week on top and they jump.
Timing and numbers. Both are wrong for Labour and their vote of confidence in the government.
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I wish I hadn’t looked it up 74% of MPs voted Remain. One feckwit, desperate to be Pm again, decided that we should all make the choice.
Yes Fats and I've wanted to punch him ever since,might not (only might)have been so bad if we'd had a couple of month of proper info.Grrrr.
So it’s all going well then?
Thank you very much Mr Cameron, you served your country well. What are you doing now btw, counting the value of your family’s investment fund registered in the Cayman Islands, perhaps?
Thank you very much Mr Cameron, you served your country well. What are you doing now btw, counting the value of your family’s investment fund registered in the Cayman Islands, perhaps?
David will be hidden away pretending to write his memoirs so he doesn't have to face the heckles that await. Better drag it out at least ten years Dave.
If she wins this tonight and it isn't enough for her to resign or be resigned..........Get your money on Corbyn for next PM before the price plummets.
The DUP will drop their support and then Tom will get his Labour trigger of no confidence that he got mixed up the other day.
The DUP will drop their support and then Tom will get his Labour trigger of no confidence that he got mixed up the other day.
In a way I think this vote of no confidence will play exactly into May's hands. They won't get a majority to oust her, then she can say get behind me and my deal as you've had your chance to stop it to her Tory colleagues.
If we had the 'meaningful vote' and they lost I could see then it was more likely that article 50 would've been amended to push back the date for more fudging and the pressure would grow for a second referendum.
After her winning the confidence vote most of the Tories will rally behind her to get the deal done especially if she offers to resign once it is through.
Is this any way to run the country though! Let's hope we will be ready for the next recession that is coming soon.
If we had the 'meaningful vote' and they lost I could see then it was more likely that article 50 would've been amended to push back the date for more fudging and the pressure would grow for a second referendum.
After her winning the confidence vote most of the Tories will rally behind her to get the deal done especially if she offers to resign once it is through.
Is this any way to run the country though! Let's hope we will be ready for the next recession that is coming soon.
There is a recession coming anyway. Lots of financial experts predicting it. Worldwide there are flags going up all over the place again.
And the deal vote still won't go through. Labour won't vote for it with a sniff of an election and the Tory right/left still won't.
Why would the "Tory wets" vote for a deal when they can sniff the 2nd referendum/remain that they want? Why would the sceptics vote for something that is more entwined with Europe than we are at the moment? Why would Labour moderates vote for the deal when they can sniff a chance to get into power?
The deal is doomed. Even more doomed than a Tory party delivering a remain agreement that says leave on the cover!
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You’ve raised a good point. The only thing is despite the many opportunities offered I’ve yet to hear from any of the opposition front bench about any plan. Their own six tests would prevent any plan to leave taking place, so what other options have they come up with that I might have missed? The Government has not performed well either but at least there is a deal in print.