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greensaint said:
Love the way the government has raised the future pension age mins after the last PM questions this term, and under the handy smoke screen of the BBC pay release.

After kicking the pay review panels likely to demand above 1% increases into the long grass this week it really does seem like frantic, out of touch thrashing around at No10.
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Has the retirement age gone up again?
With life expectancy now dropping for the first time in a long time, maybe the plan is for everyone to die before they qualify for it.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...titute-and-faculty-of-actuaries-a7661571.html
 
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St Badger said:
Has the retirement age gone up again?
With life expectancy now dropping for the first time in a long time, maybe the plan is for everyone to die before they qualify for it.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...titute-and-faculty-of-actuaries-a7661571.html
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I'm not actually against retiring later (says the early retirer) but the way it's being done will create an increasing problem in areas where working 'till you're 68 is bonkers. The cliched examples are those jobs where a degree of physical fitness/strength are required. With so many more expected to work longer those (physically) easy desk jobs are going to be under a little pressure.

Some joined up thinking would be really nice someday.
 
St Badger said:
Has the retirement age gone up again?
With life expectancy now dropping for the first time in a long time, maybe the plan is for everyone to die before they qualify for it.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...titute-and-faculty-of-actuaries-a7661571.html
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The "projection rate" is what has dropped. Actual figures have not dropped, they have stalled. This is a projection based on the actual figures not continuing to rise and predicting a drop from actual figures in the future.
 
greensaint said:
I'm not actually against retiring later (says the early retirer) but the way it's being done will create an increasing problem in areas where working 'till you're 68 is bonkers. The cliched examples are those jobs where a degree of physical fitness/strength are required. With so many more expected to work longer those (physically) easy desk jobs are going to be under a little pressure.

Some joined up thinking would be really nice someday.
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No way can I be a PT until I am 68 <laugh>
 
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fatletiss said:
I "gave you" my local MP recently. Here she is again.... <doh>

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40677044

Jane Austen is one of our greatest living authors, apparently!
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This is a cruel attack on the poor woman. We can all make mistakes. It's outrageous that someone who wants to see an end to silly name calling should stoop as low as this, FLT.

Oh all right, it's bloody funny. You have my sympathies having this woman as an MP :emoticon-0105-wink:

Starts to get really worrying when you think she is a member of the government. :emoticon-0120-doh:
 
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greensaint said:
I'm not actually against retiring later (says the early retirer) but the way it's being done will create an increasing problem in areas where working 'till you're 68 is bonkers. The cliched examples are those jobs where a degree of physical fitness/strength are required. With so many more expected to work longer those (physically) easy desk jobs are going to be under a little pressure.

Some joined up thinking would be really nice someday.
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It is not going to be provided by the present Government any time soon as they cannot even agree on provisions to provide at a Cabinet meeting, let alone a Brexit strategy. As Heseltine said, "they're making it up on the hoof."
 
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fatletiss said:
I "gave you" my local MP recently. Here she is again.... <doh>

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40677044

Jane Austen is one of our greatest living authors, apparently!
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There was someone (educated) on the BBC banging on about how there should be a memorial statue of Jane Austen the other day and of course the news presenters agreed it was a travesty there was no memorial to one of our greatest authors in this country. An hour later I watched a program on cathedrals on the BBC and they mentioned the 3 memorials and burial gravestone in Winchester cathedral.

I think the segment was supposed to be about the first "statue" however within seconds they were banging on about there being no memorials to her in Britain.
 
ImpSaint said:
There was someone (educated) on the BBC banging on about how there should be a memorial statue of Jane Austen the other day and of course the news presenters agreed it was a travesty there was no memorial to one of our greatest authors in this country. An hour later I watched a program on cathedrals on the BBC and they mentioned the 3 memorials and burial gravestone in Winchester cathedral.

I think the segment was supposed to be about the first "statue" however within seconds they were banging on about there being no memorials to her in Britain.
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We need one for Ben Elton at some time in the future. Good comedian, writer, author. And an under-rated novelist.
 
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ImpSaint said:
There was someone (educated) on the BBC banging on about how there should be a memorial statue of Jane Austen the other day and of course the news presenters agreed it was a travesty there was no memorial to one of our greatest authors in this country. An hour later I watched a program on cathedrals on the BBC and they mentioned the 3 memorials and burial gravestone in Winchester cathedral.

I think the segment was supposed to be about the first "statue" however within seconds they were banging on about there being no memorials to her in Britain.
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It's quite comical how much you detest the BBC Imps, you could've said "on TV", but no it had to have been on the Beeb!...<laugh>
 
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ImpSaint said:
There was someone (educated) on the BBC banging on about how there should be a memorial statue of Jane Austen the other day and of course the news presenters agreed it was a travesty there was no memorial to one of our greatest authors in this country. An hour later I watched a program on cathedrals on the BBC and they mentioned the 3 memorials and burial gravestone in Winchester cathedral.

I think the segment was supposed to be about the first "statue" however within seconds they were banging on about there being no memorials to her in Britain.
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I drove passed Jane Austen's house today - it's a couple of hundred yards from my Dad's house.
 
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Saints_Alive said:
It's quite comical how much you detest the BBC Imps, you could've said "on TV", but no it had to have been on the Beeb!...<laugh>
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Of course it was the Beeb. I have BBC News on all day so it must have been and at night I only watch BBC4 or occasionally BBC2 if something decent is on.

Doesn't mean I agree with them but what other choice is there when of all my hundred or whatever "free" channels there only 2 and a half with anything worth watching on them? I'm not counting yesterdayTV because that's just old BBC programs anyway.

I do however sometimes just not bother with TV at all and just get some music on instead :)

I don't "detest" the BBC. I "detest" the opinion presented as fact by a lot of it's superstar wannabe current affairs and news presenters. I just wish they would interview people properly instead of constantly interrupting and actually try and really do "fact checking" instead of taking every economists "projection" as being fact even if they have a history of not getting their forecasts right.

The LSE has a lot to answer for.

They could also put Peter Kellner out of work and just stick to using John Curtice who gets things right rather than Kellner who is just determined to promote (and defend) YouGov.
 
ImpSaint said:
Of course it was the Beeb. I have BBC News on all day so it must have been and at night I only watch BBC4 or occasionally BBC2 if something decent is on.

Doesn't mean I agree with them but what other choice is there when of all my hundred or whatever "free" channels there only 2 and a half with anything worth watching on them? I'm not counting yesterdayTV because that's just old BBC programs anyway.

I do however sometimes just not bother with TV at all and just get some music on instead :)

I don't "detest" the BBC. I "detest" the opinion presented as fact by a lot of it's superstar wannabe current affairs and news presenters. I just wish they would interview people properly instead of constantly interrupting and actually try and really do "fact checking" instead of taking every economists "projection" as being fact even if they have a history of not getting their forecasts right.

The LSE has a lot to answer for.

They could also put Peter Kellner out of work and just stick to using John Curtice who gets things right rather than Kellner who is just determined to promote (and defend) YouGov.
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It is the BBC's function, within political news, to challenge any opinion. You only notice their challenging right-wing opinion, but they give all political sectors a hard time. You might have noticed who is in power at the moment, so they get the hardest challenge, as the questions and answers carry real weight, rather than being academic. As the public broadcaster it is their duty to represent the public conscience. It's something that most people, including you, take very much for granted.
 
While going off to look at some MLT's tweets, I happened to notice this retweet. It helps along the usual perception that there are the haves and the have-nots, and that some politicians will do their own personal damnedest to make sure it stays that way:

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TheSecondStain said:
While going off to look at some MLT's tweets, I happened to notice this retweet. It helps along the usual perspective that there are the haves and the have-nots, and that some politicians will do their own personal damnedest to make sure it stays that way:

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Is "Blunt" rhyming slang for his real name by any chance?
 
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