Off Topic Politics Thread

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Puck said:
Look, May has to make a genuine attempt to govern. A government is required to pass a Queen's Speech. That means she has to get some sort of agreement to pass it. Plus a budget at some point. This isn't going to be a formal coalition, it's a loose, almost day by day agreement between two parties that come from a vaguely similar area on the political spectrum. There might be single issues where May has to come to agreements with the other parties. Are there any examples of areas where the DUP are actually going to be able to affect what May does?

It's also not just that Theresa May has no alternative. Given the way parliament is made up this is the only viable way of running the country without having another election. The numbers simply aren't there for a Labour + SNP + Lib Dem + Whoever alliance and I don't think most people want yet another election just yet.

Agree that May will probably go before too long. I'm not quite sure how long it'll take or exactly how it'll happen though.
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I still wouldn't want anything to do with DUP

I give May 6 months max.
 
tomw24 said:
I'm not denying that their policies are ****ed up, but May had to form a government. No one in their right mind would go for a minority government and another election in a few months in May's position if there was another option. Another election would play right into Corbyn's hands which I would like as I want May out. But she was never going down that route.
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Where do you draw the line? If Angela Merkel is struggling to form a government come September, will it be OK for her to form an alliance with a far right that would want to make Holocaust denial a central plank of policy?

If this election tells us anything it is that British politics is broken. Ignore the "red Tory" label, May leads a right of centre coalition. Corbyn is an old fashioned leftie (bless). This is the first election for decades that there was a clear choice. Just over 40% of those who voted went for one of these very different views of the world. It's time to draw breath. Maybe, just maybe, it's time to be grown up. Paisley and McGuinness showed that finding common ground is possible. If the likes of Hilary Benn and Ken Clarke discussed the problems facing the UK they might a) agree on the problems and b) seek solutions that did not offend the ideology of either.

Going into government with the political wing of the unionist para-military can never be excused.
 
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Beefy said:
Look what I posted about DUP, she shouldn't be siding with them anyways. She also knew would know damn well how Sinn Fein would react, it's pretty obvious they would be pissed off.

Both are disgusting parties and to try to form a coalition with either is disgusting.
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Ok Beefy - what would you suggest her next move should have been?

Edit: ignore this - you have said that later.
 
Beefy said:
Look what I posted about DUP, she shouldn't be siding with them anyways. She also knew would know damn well how Sinn Fein would react, it's pretty obvious they would be pissed off.

Both are disgusting parties and to try to form a coalition with either is disgusting.
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She isn't forming a coalition, she's using them to get her to govern.

I don't like or rate the lady, but she had to take an action. There will mostly likely be another election sooner rather than later anyway, but I just feel she's been kicked here unnecessarily- plenty of things she's ****ed up that she could be kicked for.
 
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fatletiss said:
She isn't forming a coalition, she's using them to get her to govern.

I don't like or rate the lady, but she had to take an action. There will mostly likely be another election sooner rather than later anyway, but I just feel she's been kicked here unnecessarily- plenty of thinks she's ****ed up that she could be kicked for.
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I'm a LGBT+ activist, I have every right to kick her for siding with the DUP.
 
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Missing Lambo said:
Where do you draw the line? If Angela Merkel is struggling to form a government come September, will it be OK for her to form an alliance with a far right that would want to make Holocaust denial a central plank of policy?

If this election tells us anything it is that British politics is broken. Ignore the "red Tory" label, May leads a right of centre coalition. Corbyn is an old fashioned leftie (bless). This is the first election for decades that there was a clear choice. Just over 40% of those who voted went for one of these very different views of the world. It's time to draw breath. Maybe, just maybe, it's time to be grown up. Paisley and McGuinness showed that finding common ground is possible. If the likes of Hilary Benn and Ken Clarke discussed the problems facing the UK they might a) agree on the problems and b) seek solutions that did not offend the ideology of either.

Going into government with the political wing of the unionist para-military can never be excused.
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I agree with your "broken politics" line entirely. I just doubt there will be enough grown-ups to work together.
 
Missing Lambo said:
Where do you draw the line? If Angela Merkel is struggling to form a government come September, will it be OK for her to form an alliance with a far right that would want to make Holocaust denial a central plank of policy?

If this election tells us anything it is that British politics is broken. Ignore the "red Tory" label, May leads a right of centre coalition. Corbyn is an old fashioned leftie (bless). This is the first election for decades that there was a clear choice. Just over 40% of those who voted went for one of these very different views of the world. It's time to draw breath. Maybe, just maybe, it's time to be grown up. Paisley and McGuinness showed that finding common ground is possible. If the likes of Hilary Benn and Ken Clarke discussed the problems facing the UK they might a) agree on the problems and b) seek solutions that did not offend the ideology of either.

Going into government with the political wing of the unionist para-military can never be excused.
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Seems like it's about time Proportional Representation got its chance, so that everybody gets a chance to have their input and be represented.

I noticed, when it came to the question, a rather contrite Farage last night realising that the only reason why his old UKiP party had any representation in Wales was via their version of PR which elects the Welsh Assembly.
 
Kensington still counting (recounting). Have now stopped as the counters are too tired.
 
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Going to work well Ruth...
 
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