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Onionman said:
I'm NOT trying to stop him posting. How the hell could I do that? I'm just pointing out my opinion of him and wishing he'd bugger off of his own accord and stop posting his inane alt-right breitbartesque made up paranoic nonsense ramblings on here.

Vin
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Don't hold back, Vin. You'll only end up stressed if you try to be so conciliatory.
 
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davecg69 said:
Why am I being told I must vote labour? No time for Corbyn, no time for May, unsure if I know the names of the other leaders (no doubt I'll find out in the next few weeks though). I'll do as I usually do and vote for the local candidate I feel will properly represent me and my views.
I don't like being told to vote for any party - it's called Democracy
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All that some one here are saying is that IF you want to stop the Tories gaining a huge majority (which some might argue is in itself anti-democratic) then there are some parties better placed than others to defeat Tory candidates.

I'd love to vote for the candidate I simply thought could best represent the people of the constituency in which I live. I voted for the incumbent Labour MP in each election post 1997 even though I thought she was basically lobby fodder for Blair. The alternative - a Tory government - was marginally less appealing. After her we had an excellent Tory MP. Didn't stop me voting Labour at the election, We now have an excellent Labour MP, who will be voted out, I am sure, by many who think he is a good man but don't want a Labour Government. I so wish your local view could prevail, but until we have a fairer voting system I just can't see it. The waste of talent in the current system is self-evident, in my view.
 
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Missing Lambo said:
All that some one here are saying is that IF you want to stop the Tories gaining a huge majority (which some might argue is in itself anti-democratic) then there are some parties better placed than others to defeat Tory candidates.

I'd love to vote for the candidate I simply thought could best represent the people of the constituency in which I live. I voted for the incumbent Labour MP in each election post 1997 even though I thought she was basically lobby fodder for Blair. The alternative - a Tory government - was marginally less appealing. After her we had an excellent Tory MP. Didn't stop me voting Labour at the election, We now have an excellent Labour MP, who will be voted out, I am sure, by many who think he is a good man but don't want a Labour Government. I so wish your local view could prevail, but until we have a fairer voting system I just can't see it. The waste of talent in the current system is self-evident, in my view.
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Exactly Lambo. Until we have Proportional Representation we have no alternative but tactical voting, which is basically voting against a party instead of voting for the party you want to.
 
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swanseaandproud said:
Corbyn and Labour will be the biggest surprise and the biggest threat to May and her lies....She will have less MP's than she has now and she is running scared....Just watch the idiot at PM's questions ...When asked a question by any Labour MP she never ever answers but gives a long speech discrediting Corbyn. She will do anything like planting Tories around her to give easy questions so she can continue her propaganda witch hunt against corbyn.....Mr corbyn has done nothing more than tell it as it is and with the Tory Media and Newspapers which are all owned and run by rich Tories except the Mirror will produce blatant lies continuing the slander of Corbyn....Lets get this straight The Tories under May Have made a right hash of leaving the EU which has cost you and me a lot of money ...and dont forget the rich millionaires only pay the same as you and me.....The country is in a mess with Schools,NHS,the railways just to mention a few.....They have made more cuts for the most vulnerable and the working classes and the only ones to have a massive pay rise are the MP's, Bankers and heads of business with the rest getting 1% if we are lucky after being frozen for years......The Tories want a hard Brexit which will effect everyone in the country except the Rich as they wont feel any change in living standards like the rest of us are feeling already......They are not called the Nasty party for nothing who will lie and cheat to remain in power......By the way i was a Tory voter once upon a time until Thatcher destroyed my country and i have never trusted them since and have voted Labour as the only party for decency and fairness ....
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Brillant Swansea! The problem is how to descredit the Tories? I feel as any Tory bashing just swotted away with ease at the moment. I suggested in the Portsmouth News that the present Conservatives have let down millions of Conservatives voters by going for Brexit. I got plenty of thumbs down and no support, so SE Hampshire is definitely redneck territory.
 
Onionman said:
Imps and I had a disagreement some time ago after he posted a typical lunatic anti-"main-stream-media" nonsense knee-jerk-dismissal reaction about something someone posted that Imp admitted he hadn't even bothered to read. As he'd done the same about something I'd posted on an earlier occasion, I took exception. So, yes, I'll call him what I like, if you don't mind. And, as it happens, he's the only person on my ignore list so I no longer have to read his paranoid ramblings. I only gathered he was back on because other people on here have seen through him and responded in such a way that it was clear he was on again.

Anyway, each to their own. I'm very sorry to hear that you agree with him given that he doesn't bother to read before responding. It suggests he just loves propaganda rather than debate, so I suggest you treat his posts with suspicion.

I also insulted him because someone did it once before and he changed his name to "finishedhere" and stopped posting. Unfortunately, that change was as reliable as everything else he posts. I was rather hoping that if I pointed out his prickishness again he might flounce off in a huff again. Unfortunately, the prospect of a general election and all the alt-right rants he can trump up will probably keep him hammering at his keyboard like a pneumatic drill on cocaine, so it's probably a forlorn hope.

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Wonderful! I hope these are your own words. Patent them!
 
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ImpSaint said:
I didn;t say it was Labour policy. I said momentum. Momentum are the group that run campaigns to boost Corbyn support. They are 10,000 or so members that then work all over social media and the streets encouraging other people to join Labour as members and support the almighty leader.
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You will upset Donald Trump as he thinks he is the almighty (to****)
 
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Onionman said:
Erm, might just be worth actually reading the post you replied to, which contained the following words:



I'm NOT trying to stop him posting. How the hell could I do that? I'm just pointing out my opinion of him and wishing he'd bugger off of his own accord and stop posting his inane alt-right breitbartesque made up paranoic nonsense ramblings on here.

Vin
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IMP is standing for the WUM party folks!! He is certainly getting the reaction that he requires. This is what WUMs do, and they enjoy it.
 
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The Ides of March said:
IMP is standing for the WUM party folks!! He is certainly getting the reaction that he requires. This is what WUMs do, and they enjoy it.
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As a Saints fan, politics is my chance to support the winning side. Maybe more Saints fans should join me and experience winning instead of ALWAYS being the runner up.
 
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The Ides of March said:
Should we target Southampton Itchen to get Royston Smith out?
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I sit in the Itchen and a very, very old dear friend of mine is called Royston Smith and he also sits in the Itchen who I see from time to time at the games. He is in his early 90s and had a season ticket since he was 25, so I think it would be unfair to him :)
 
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thereisonlyoneno7 said:
I sit in the Itchen and a very, very old dear friend of mine is called Royston Smith and he also sits in the Itchen who I see from time to time at the games. He is in his early 90s and had a season ticket since he was 25, so I think it would be unfair to him :)
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This just might be a different Royston Smith. :)

Who on Earth gets them self named Royston, for pete's sake.?
 
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