Off Topic Politics Thread

[TheSecondStain]

Do so. I stand by it.

The Daily Mail is the nearest equivalent in the British Press to Donald Trump. Their pet theme is to find a relatively innocuous subject. Draw huge negative attention to it. Tell you various reasons why you should be afraid of it, and hope to sell the odd newspaper on the back of it. Especially these days as they have been identified by a host of European companies as a purveyor of hate news, and those companies [including British ones] have withdrawn their advertising budgets from the Mail, Express and one or two others. Not The Guardian, Observer, etc... I may add.

 

[benditlikeabanana]

Must say that I do have a morbid enjoyment of switching on the TV at 9pm here ( 2am Hampshire Hog Time) and watch BBC news to see what **** Trump has been up to during the day. Some real WTF moments

 

[Whiteley Saint]

I would say that if The Guardian is trash, then all newspapers are trash.

Quite right they are all trash.

 

[Whiteley Saint]

Brexit bill passes in the House of Commons 494 to 122. It's off the the House of Lords now.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38902484

 

[The Ides of March]

Brexit bill passes in the House of Commons 494 to 122. It's off the the House of Lords now.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38902484

Time for Lord Heseltine and Peter Mandelson to get their fingers out and throw the bill in the bin where it belongs, and then inform Mother Theresa there are more pressing issues to attend to than wasting time trying to negotiate a Brexit.

 

[TheSecondStain]

Time for Lord Heseltine and Peter Mandelson to get their fingers out and throw the bill in the bin where it belongs, and then inform Mother Theresa there are more pressing issues to attend to than wasting time trying to negotiate a Brexit.

Indeed.

Why waste time over a bill that is only going to throw the UK into a big recession, and might even drag a few countries in Europe and the wider world down too. Just keep it on the shelf.

 

[I Sorry I Ruined The Party]

“The Guardian believes there should be a better representation of our diverse society in journalism, and each summer offers up to 12 two-week placements for students or graduates from BAME backgrounds… The scheme is unpaid, though reasonable daily travel expenses will be reimbursed.”

So these are two week internships? Yeah, then I don't care. Those aren't the kind of internships that are a problem.

 

[I Sorry I Ruined The Party]

All politicians lie so it would be hard to vote if not for a liar. Trump does take that to the extreme though. Only lies and fake news come from his mouth.

That's the thing Trump supporters can't do.

It's just "Well CNN lied once, so they all lie." Or "Clinton lied, so I hope Trump 'gets them back' and lies." By making everything a potential lie, they get to pick and choose what they want to believe.

 

[PompeyLapras]

The Daily Mail is the nearest equivalent in the British Press to Donald Trump. Their pet theme is to find a relatively innocuous subject. Draw huge negative attention to it. Tell you various reasons why you should be afraid of it, and hope to sell the odd newspaper on the back of it. Especially these days as they have been identified by a host of European companies as a purveyor of hate news, and those companies [including British ones] have withdrawn their advertising budgets from the Mail, Express and one or two others. Not The Guardian, Observer, etc... I may add.

I'm not saying the Daily Mail is a good paper. As long as you take everything with a large and delicious pinch of salt (I like salt) it's not completely terrible though though it is very sensationalist and... rant-y. There's worse papers like the Sun though. In regards to the Guardian, one of their most prominent journalists very publicly takes part in anti-government protests. Tells you all you need to know about their 'impartiality'.

 

[Schrodinger's Cat]

Time for Lord Heseltine and Peter Mandelson to get their fingers out and throw the bill in the bin where it belongs, and then inform Mother Theresa there are more pressing issues to attend to than wasting time trying to negotiate a Brexit.

Yep, thats what we need, an unelected body throwing out some legislation that came about because of the Democratic process...just let it go Ides, I understand that you don't like the result of the referendum, or the subsequent legislation and likely hard Brexit, but it will happen despite you constantly posting that you think it shouldn't because Brexit is wrong etc blah blah blah.

 

[Puck]

If the House of Lords blocks Article 50 then we'll find ourselves in the middle of a constitutional crisis and they may find they've signed their own death warrant. That could be entertaining I suppose but it doesn't seem like the best idea to me.

 

[ImpSaint]

I would say that if The Guardian is trash, then all newspapers are trash.

You're starting to get it. They are.

 

[ImpSaint]

So these are two week internships? Yeah, then I don't care. Those aren't the kind of internships that are a problem.

Nor me but the Guardian has been hammering away at the "internships are bad" trying to get at the other rags and then they forget and advertise for some of their own.

 

[ImpSaint]

If the House of Lords blocks Article 50 then we'll find ourselves in the middle of a constitutional crisis and they may find they've signed their own death warrant. That could be entertaining I suppose but it doesn't seem like the best idea to me.

They will niggle and let it through on a tight margin just so they can hang on to their £300 a day and say that they did their best.

The Lords needs thinning down to 100 anyway.

 

[ImpSaint]

What do Europeans think about muslim immigration:

https://www.chathamhouse.org/expert/comment/what-do-europeans-think-about-muslim-immigration

 

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[I Sorry I Ruined The Party]

Nor me but the Guardian has been hammering away at the "internships are bad" trying to get at the other rags and then they forget and advertise for some of their own.

Well, because it depends on the internship. A two week unpaid internship amounts to "journalism camp." If you are interning for months and months, that's unpaid labor.

 

[Archers Road]

A fair number of papers are...

But the Guardian is no better than the Daily Mail (which is often bashed) in terms of sensationalism and bias, but it's just deemed acceptable because it's a left wing bias.

That's arrant nonsense. The Guardian is far from left wing for a start, though a few of it's regular contributors are. The editorial policy is more liberal, with a small 'l'.

Not denying that it has it's own bias. But to compare the Guardian's evident liberal editorial tone to the hate filled rants of the Mail and Express suggests you've never actually read it.

 

[Archers Road]

You're starting to get it. They are.

Far better to get your "news" from far right conspiracy websites, eh Imps?

Discredit every news source equally, and we can all start believing what we want to believe, regardless of evidence. Next thing you know, we get a nazi in the Whitehouse and everyone thinks he's there to promote the interests of the common man.

 

[Whiteley Saint]

I am yet to read a newspaper that is impartial they all seem to lean one way or the other. The Guardian is left leaning and The Mail is right. The Mail is more tabloid in the way it goes about it.