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Boris Johnson says he strongly disagrees with the judgement and that there are groups that are trying to obstruct the will of the people.

Downing Street also says he will not be resigning.
 
The sad thing is that those who support Boris Johnson also have flat earth and no lunar landing in their search histories...

Is anyone else sick of the fact people don't understand democracy? We live in a REPRESENTATIVE democracy. This means we elect people to MAKE OUR CHOICES FOR US based on the wealth of knowledge and experience they are the huge civil service teams have. We are not supposed to cripple that democracy by making unilateral and irreversible decisions like Brexit.

Cancelling Brexit is what democracy is supposed to do, if our leaders deem it best. Going gung ho for nonsense is undemocratic in the extreme.
 
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It blows my mind that Johnson can keep his job after this.

How dishonest, unlawful and careless does a PM have to be before they are forced to resign? Shocking.
 
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TheSecondStain said:
OK Labour Party, I want to read and hear more, but I consider this a "good thing": https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49804455
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They have had some magnificent ideas, for the country, and it will be a crying shame if they never get the chance to put them into action, because of their stance on Brexit.
I am sick of arguing with one of my sisters who just can’t see beyond what the Daily Express tells her, when it comes to politics. She was poo pooing the idea of Labour reducing the working week to 32 hours with comments such as “get real” and “how will they get their job done if you reduce their hours”. I suggested that she did a bit of research as other countries are making it work and becoming more productive and if you reduced the hours of 6 people currently doing a 37.5 hour week to 32 hours, you create a 32 hour week for another person, maybe even one who is currently on an unsafe zero hour contract.
 
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St Badger said:
They have had some magnificent ideas, for the country, and it will be a crying shame if they never get the chance to put them into action, because of their stance on Brexit.
I am sick of arguing with one of my sisters who just can’t see beyond what the Daily Express tells her, when it comes to politics. She was poo pooing the idea of Labour reducing the working week to 32 hours with comments such as “get real” and “how will they get their job done if you reduce their hours”. I suggested that she did a bit of research as other countries are making it work and becoming more productive and if you reduced the hours of 6 people currently doing a 37.5 hour week to 32 hours, you create a 32 hour week for another person, maybe even one who is currently on an unsafe zero hour contract.
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Did your sister know that even in the late 1970s, economists of the time, such as Milton Friedman, [Reagan and Thatcher's favourite] were fully expecting people to be down to a 15-20 working week, such was the predicted prosperity. Well, right wingers couldn't allow that.
 
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I generally support encouraging companies to offer jobs with lower hours. While I know there are lots of people who need the hours of full time work, so we still needs jobs with that option, there's also a lot of demand for regular jobs with less hours.

My current job is 4 days a week and as somebody who is young and financially stable I really enjoy the extra free time and have been avoiding going back to a 5 day week. Though I understand there are people with more financial commitments than me.

But I also know that there are people struggling for work at all and people struggling to find opportunities to gain work experience. A common theme in social residents I speak to. And giving 4 5 day jobs into 5 4 day jobs would help with both of these situations. Increasing the number of jobs and opportunities to gain skills. Overall I think encouraging more of these type of jobs would benefit the country.

It would also help with future increased autonomy which would reduce the number of jobs but increase productivity per job. So reduced work hours evens this out.
 
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TheSecondStain said:
Did your sister know that even in the late 1970s, economists of the time, such as Milton Friedman, [Reagan and Thatcher's favourite] were fully expecting people to be down to a 15-20 working week, such was the predicted prosperity. Well, right wingers couldn't allow that.
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I didn’t even know that myself, but I will use it.
 
St Badger said:
I didn’t even know that myself, but I will use it.
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Don't take my word for it. My information is from the book, There is no Planet B by Mike Berners-Lee, which is verified information. So there's your back-up.

EDIT: I should say that the idea was first put forward by John Maynard Keynes in the 1930's, but it persisted.
 
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