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My wife wrote to our MP, M. Tomlinson, regarding Nurse recruitment and pay a while back. Reply arrived yesterday. It completely ignored the questions she asked and repeated the same (some very inaccurate) selective stats claiming there are more nurses in post and more in training than ever before.

I know these replys are 99% formulaic bollocks but it was almost dismissive, she felt she was being treated like an idiot.

I, not very kindly, responded that by continuing to work in the NHS politicians think she is. Ho hum.
 
SaintinSerbia said:
he can't get any lower (I say every month)
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Hourly, at this point. And here's why:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...6244d2-d523-11e7-b62d-d9345ced896d_story.html

In effect, he has come to the conclusion that he can say and do whatever he wants consequence-free, and he's reveling in it. There's no grand plan or strategy...he's simply pushing the envelope because he is essentially a small child with overly permissive parents who just discovered curse words, except he runs the most powerful nation the world has ever known because humanity was a mistake.
 
Schad said:
Hourly, at this point. And here's why:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...6244d2-d523-11e7-b62d-d9345ced896d_story.html

In effect, he has come to the conclusion that he can say and do whatever he wants consequence-free, and he's reveling in it. There's no grand plan or strategy...he's simply pushing the envelope because he is essentially a small child with overly permissive parents who just discovered curse words, except he runs the most powerful nation the world has ever known because humanity was a mistake.
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"Most powerful nation the world has ever known"? Not really. After the fall of Carthage, the Roman Empire had no rival anywhere in the known world, and only collapsed when it tore itself apart from the inside - after the principles underpinning it's Republic were usurped by a series of vain and narcissistic despots.

Rome's institutions of State turned out not to be particularly robust when undermined by despots. The US's may be stronger. And Rome had no mechanism for impeaching an Emperor - assasination was their only option.
 
I'm not talking about political power. Even setting aside nuclear weapons, Trump presides over a destructive force that is unequaled in human history. He neither understands that nor cares about consequences that do not direct affect himself. The Second Punic War saw casualties in the hundreds of thousands, over more than 15 years; a rash decision from Trump could see that in a day.
 
Schad said:
I'm not talking about political power. Even setting aside nuclear weapons, Trump presides over a destructive force that is unequaled in human history. He neither understands that nor cares about consequences that do not direct affect himself. The Second Punic War saw casualties in the hundreds of thousands, over more than 15 years; a rash decision from Trump could see that in a day.
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And Trump can't play a fiddle.

If I was him, I'd be watching my Praetorian Guard though.
 
Just had a look at Trumps twitter to see what response he got to the Theresa May tweet (once he got it right!) and I have to say there are a lot of nut jobs out there. Disturbingly someone has replied saying she is British and thanking him for standing up for our country. People seem to think this country is full of jihadists. If you like fake news join social media. Some of these people are as bad as people who watch soaps and think it's real life. Most worrying of all is that they are allowed to vote!
 
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So Trump condemns May for responding to an American tweet rather than British issues. Yet it was a him retweeting British tweets about british issues that she was responding to...

<doh>
 
These are truly dangerous times when the POTUS is a many times accused as a sexual predator, purveyor of fascism, and a narcissistic bully. The U.S. electorate have in my view voted in a psychopath. It is to be hoped that the checks and balances in the U.S. constitution continue to blunt much of his agenda, but inadequate psychopaths when thwarted are likely to become more dangerous.
 
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Why the hell is that absolute moron being offered a state visit? What an embarrassing **** he is.

I understand the importance of diplomacy, but I do wish someone would just tell the guy to **** off and stop being a ****.

Maybe the British public...
 
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It must be a slow news day. The BBC are back to the alleged pornography found on Damian Green's computer. I'm not sure what anyone else thinks but I can't get excited about this. It was in 2008 and apparently was all legal stuff. Man watches pornography on computer shock. I'm sure he's the only one. Whilst , if true, I would expect his boss to kick him up the backside I personally am not bothered. I find myself more concerned that an ex-policeman is disclosing information to the press. Surely he must have signed something to say he can't do that or anything confidential about anyone could be dumped in the press at anytime. I had to sign the official secrets act when I was a civil servant and a confidentiality agreement when in banking.
 
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Whiteley Saint said:
It must be a slow news day. The BBC are back to the alleged pornography found on Damian Green's computer. I'm not sure what anyone else thinks but I can't get excited about this. It was in 2008 and apparently was all legal stuff. Man watches pornography on computer shock. I'm sure he's the only one. Whilst , if true, I would expect his boss to kick him up the backside I personally am not bothered. I find myself more concerned that an ex-policeman is disclosing information to the press. Surely he must have signed something to say he can't do that or anything confidential about anyone could be dumped in the press at anytime. I had to sign the official secrets act when I was a civil servant and a confidentiality agreement when in banking.
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You are right about him not being the only man, or woman for that matter, to look at porn, but at work?
Had I done that when I worked for the council, and had been caught, I would have been dismissed.
People in his position need to be more aware of the potential for being coerced into making choices he doesn’t want to make, should the wrong people know about his dabbling in something he would probably prefer to keep secret.
The Tory whips have been outed as using secret matters to force MPs to toe the party line at the ballot box, which makes those MPs puppets.
 
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You are right about him not being the only man, or woman for that matter, to look at porn, but at work?
Had I done that when I worked for the council, and had been caught, I would have been dismissed.
People in his position need to be more aware of the potential for being coerced into making choices he doesn’t want to make, should the wrong people know about his dabbling in something he would probably prefer to keep secret.
The Tory whips have been outed as using secret matters to force MPs to toe the party line at the ballot box, which makes those MPs puppets.
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It is no doubt wrong and can lead to dismissal, but it would depend what is in the companies internet policy, in this case the ministerial code. Did anyone else have access to the computer? Also you obviously need concrete evidence before you dismiss someone. This so far appears to be one persons word against another and happened nearly 10 years ago so evidence may be difficult to find. I have no idea whether it's true or not but as with all well known people they are tried in the media before a conclusion has been reached. I suppose my sense of fairness doesn't like this about today's world.
 
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Whiteley Saint said:
It is no doubt wrong and can lead to dismissal, but it would depend what is in the companies internet policy, in this case the ministerial code. Did anyone else have access to the computer? Also you obviously need concrete evidence before you dismiss someone. This so far appears to be one persons word against another and happened nearly 10 years ago so evidence may be difficult to find. I have no idea whether it's true or not but as with all well known people they are tried in the media before a conclusion has been reached. I suppose my sense of fairness doesn't like this about today's world.
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At the time of the alleged incident, he was an opposition MP, so it was not affecting his abilities as an MP. Maybe he was doing some research into what is acceptable and what isn't, for the moment he entered Government. This line of argument worked well for Pete Townsend who was looking at child-porn.
 
I Sorry I Ruined The Party said:
Tim Cook is not doing any of this out of the goodness of his heart. After all, those Foxconn jobs are so ****ty workers were throwing themselves off buildings. .
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Not quite so. Not everything is as painted.

"The most notorious example was when, in 2010, 10 workers at a Foxconn electronics factory in China killed themselves – a shocking fact that tarnished Foxconn’s most famous customer, Apple, and caused millions of iPhone owners to feel faintly guilty. But the factory employed an astonishing 400,000 people; so the reported suicide rate, rather than being shockingly high, was implausibly low, a sixth of the Chinese average."

From http://timharford.com/articles/sya/page/3/

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