Off Topic Politics Thread

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ImpSaint said:
Lincolnshire isn't East Midlands though. It isn't Midlands. East Midlands is the Derby, Nottingham, Leicester triangle.

Here in Lincolnshire we get BBC Look North not BBC Midlands today. We get ITV Yorkshire not ITV Central. Ask someone from Lincoln and they are a northerner. I am a Northerner. Those first 3 months in Winchester don't count ;)
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<laugh> They do you know!
 
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Missing Lambo said:
Spot on. I get apoplectic when I see drama on TV where unions are not included in situations where they would have been in real life. My missus is addicted to Holby, and last week there was the situation where someone was steam-rollered without representation. The medical unions are a bit pants, but this was outrageous. There are often situations in TV drama where trade unionists could be seen doing the bread and butter job of offering advice and supporting members. I worked in the trade union movement for over twenty years and was involved in one strike. My day to day job was helping workers, and often advising and negotiating with grateful employers. Sexy it wasn't. But I didn't half help a lot of people, I'm proud to say.
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I think Jeremy Hunt might be as well, only he probably thinks it's a documentary, showing how much time doctors and nurses have to stand around talking to each other/patients. Likewise Casualty.
My wife also watches these programmes, but they just make me "angry", as they clearly don't depict how a hospital runs.
The last hospital programme I actually enjoyed watching was Code Black, on W.
Set in an American hospital with proper ER issues.
 
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St Badger said:
I think Jeremy Hunt might be as well, only he probably thinks it's a documentary, showing how much time doctors and nurses have to stand around talking to each other/patients. Likewise Casualty.
My wife also watches these programmes, but they just make me "angry", as they clearly don't depict how a hospital runs.
The last hospital programme I actually enjoyed watching was Code Black, on W.
Set in an American hospital with proper ER issues.
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Green Wing is probably closer to how an NHS hospital runs than Holby City or Casualty, particularly the portrayal of senior managers.
 
ImpSaint said:
I'm a northerner bred but not born ;) (al)though I can't call me 'sen a yellabelly because up 'ere I'm nobbut a suvner.
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To get the real perspective of British north and south you should drive from Inverness to Southampton. After 3 hours driving south you get to Glasgow and you start to get the feeling you're leaving the north behind. Another hour you're in the Scottish lowlands where the poncy posh southerners live. Into England, countryside is quite rugged but you know you're south of the Scottish softies. Another couple of hours, all south and you're in to the tough Imp like "northerners" territory! It's like the bloody French Riviera in Lincoln!
 
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The map in this article is quite amusing (excusing the casual "xenophobic" tones) as well as the use of "duck" instead of mate or love. Lincolnshire also use duck and used to use chav before it became derogatory. Not sexist though. duck and chav are not gender specific

http://www.impactnottingham.com/201...t-living-in-nottingham-if-youre-a-southerner/

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On a more serious note I was told Southerners are south of the Pennines. Northerners are East, West and North of the Pennines.

The traditional divide was meant to be from the Severn Estuary to the wash I think. Which includes Nottingham. While Nottingham folks might like to argue they are midlanders you can't have the best of both worlds and it is a North/South divide with no midlands in there at all :)

Ignoring Melvyn Bragg's madness and all these ideas of the Humber to the Dee being the divide between North and South (Sheffield not in the North!!! Nope, sorry) This line in this article thinks along my lines. Nottingham is defo in the North not the South. If they want to go on about Midlanders they are all just [insert derogatory term you aren;t allowed to use these days] and in denial :) I personally see Nottingham as Northern. They have a Northern accent so they must be Northern.

"In a poll in Nottingham this week, not only did the vast majority of respondents consider the city to be northern – only ten per cent believed the city to be outside the North."

So your friend has been outvoted by his own lot. He's one of the 10% of [insert that word again] deniers. The commenters seem to agree with him though.

http://www.nottinghampost.com/8203-...9716036-detail/story.html#8Y6HDTg3tWXxvwsu.99

The Pennine cycleway............starts in..............wait for it..............Derby (which is lower than Nottingham.) So they're in the North :)
 
ImpSaint said:
The map in this article is quite amusing (excusing the casual "xenophobic" tones) as well as the use of "duck" instead of mate or love. Lincolnshire also use duck and used to use chav before it became derogatory. Not sexist though. duck and chav are not gender specific

http://www.impactnottingham.com/201...t-living-in-nottingham-if-youre-a-southerner/

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On a more serious note I was told Southerners are south of the Pennines. Northerners are East, West and North of the Pennines.

The traditional divide was meant to be from the Severn Estuary to the wash I think. Which includes Nottingham. While Nottingham folks might like to argue they are midlanders you can't have the best of both worlds and it is a North/South divide with no midlands in there at all :)

Ignoring Melvyn Bragg's madness and all these ideas of the Humber to the Dee being the divide between North and South (Sheffield not in the North!!! Nope, sorry) This line in this article thinks along my lines. Nottingham is defo in the North not the South. If they want to go on about Midlanders they are all just [insert derogatory term you aren;t allowed to use these days] and in denial :) I personally see Nottingham as Northern. They have a Northern accent so they must be Northern.

"In a poll in Nottingham this week, not only did the vast majority of respondents consider the city to be northern – only ten per cent believed the city to be outside the North."

So your friend has been outvoted by his own lot. He's one of the 10% of [insert that word again] deniers. The commenters seem to agree with him though.

http://www.nottinghampost.com/8203-...9716036-detail/story.html#8Y6HDTg3tWXxvwsu.99

The Pennine cycleway............starts in..............wait for it..............Derby (which is lower than Nottingham.) So they're in the North :)
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Cornwall is where the poor people holiday? you need to take out a mortgage to buy a pasty there! I blame martin Clunes!
 
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SaintinSerbia said:
Cornwall is where the poor people holiday? you need to take out a mortgage to buy a pasty there! I blame martin Clunes!
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Never been there so don't know. Rarely travel to the South these days. I only go to the border (Nottingham) if I am going downwards :)
 
SaintinSerbia said:
there's more to politics than vote Labour or Conservative! (in fact I'm amazed that a more light hearted approach to the thread would be disapproved of!)
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Not sure of your point SiS. I'm not disapproving, I'm just saying that the conversation seems to have veered quite a long way from anything to do with politics of any description!
 
ChilcoSaint said:
By the way, this is the Politics Thread.
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And on that note, and without wishing to appear callous, what impact on the election will the Manchester bombing have?

Will it having happened on the Tories watch, go against them?
Or, has this actually helped them, as no one is now talking about weak and wobbly Theresa and her uncosted manifesto?
Will Labour's momentum now stall?
 
ChilcoSaint said:
Not sure of your point SiS. I'm not disapproving, I'm just saying that the conversation seems to have veered quite a long way from anything to do with politics of any description!
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Because the North South divide (according to Danny Dorling of the University of Sheffield) now puts Nottingham in the North, Lincoln in the South and Coventry in the North too!! His new North South line takes into account the economies and voting intentions of each area.

In his words: "Lincolnshire has moved from north to south due to affluent southerners retiring to places like Gainsborough, Boston, Grantham and Lincoln."

You'll all have to hope that affluent Northerners don't retire to Winchester and Southampton or you'll end up being North then.

Also the government hasn;t worked out where the North is yet so we are giving them a helping hand:

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...the-north-of-england-the-government-isnt-sure
 
Whiteley Saint said:
Can I just settle this once and for all? North is anywhere north of Winchester. It's a well known fact in Southampton. :)
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To be perfectly honest I am 42 lived in Lincoln most of my life and never heard anyone refer to themselves as a Midlander before from this are. Midlander to me is Brummies.

Is it a younger generation thing of Leicester/Nottingham declaring they are Midlanders not Northerners? BEcause they are and always have been Northerners to me and everybody I know in Lincoln is proud to be a Northerner. Sounds like people who find some shame in being a Northerner want their own different title TBH.

The region might be classed as East Midlands but I have never known anyone refer to Lincolnshire as being in the East Midlanders and at least at my age group Lincoln people are Northerners and proud (despite any lines that Mr Dorling wants to alter.)

Maybe Leicester and Nottingham people are all part of that mad group that want to reform Mercia? I'll not be voting for that one.
 
Gotta love this ****. The GOP candidate literally the day before an election attacked a Guardian reporter, body slamming him to the ground and punching him.

"The professor also suggests it might appeal to some Republican voters who became accustomed to strong rhetoric against journalists during President Donald Trump's campaign."

The professor is not wrong. Tell me again why I should feel bad for calling a bunch of ****ing assholes, ****ing assholes.
 
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ImpSaint said:
To be perfectly honest I am 42 lived in Lincoln most of my life and never heard anyone refer to themselves as a Midlander before from this are. Midlander to me is Brummies.

Is it a younger generation thing of Leicester/Nottingham declaring they are Midlanders not Northerners? BEcause they are and always have been Northerners to me and everybody I know in Lincoln is proud to be a Northerner. Sounds like people who find some shame in being a Northerner want their own different title TBH.

The region might be classed as East Midlands but I have never known anyone refer to Lincolnshire as being in the East Midlanders and at least at my age group Lincoln people are Northerners and proud (despite any lines that Mr Dorling wants to alter.)

Maybe Leicester and Nottingham people are all part of that mad group that want to reform Mercia? I'll not be voting for that one.
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I think you're taking all this regional stuff a bit too seriously Imps.

Everyone knows London is the only civilised part of the British Isles, and most of the rest is full of backwards savages. It's been that way since Roman times.
 
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