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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. SaintinSerbia

    SaintinSerbia Annoying Twat

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    Seems to me that 6 months ago the Republicans were very happy with Comey and he was the blue eyed boy yet now he's no longer their ticket to get at Clinton? Is that a fair reading of things?
     
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  2. davecg69

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    We just got "go to university", "join a bank - it's a secure career" or "join the services" - never anything more. If you didn't want any of those, you were forgotten about.
     
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  3. SaintinSerbia

    SaintinSerbia Annoying Twat

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    but that's what you did and now your called greensaint?
     
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  4. greensaint

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    Too true Dave. My biggest achievement at Millbrook was to stop attending Metalwork classes for the last 18months. Fed up with my repeated casting failure (it wasn't strong and stable) I took to hiding in the loos, then the library, for half a day every week. I had three ok school reports in that time (the usual 'progressing well' or 'needs to concentrate more') and given a C+. I reckon by the time they figured someone was missing the teacher knew they were in the poo as much as me :)

    Now the poor buggers are overwhelmed with advice (well, opinions) from all sides.
     
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  5. SaintinSerbia

    SaintinSerbia Annoying Twat

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    Well my daughter always wanted to be a vet, she worked hard and is now a vet. It's a profession all sweet little girls who love their pet hamster have thought about. Now reality has set in, big farm animals kick you and **** all over you. When you're on the late shift at the surgery, drunks abuse you because you won't treat their dog for free and you have to deal (quite often) with distraught people who's old dog has to be PTS (put to sleep)
     
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  6. ImpSaint

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    I would say both my version and your version are a fair reading ;)
     
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  7. ImpSaint

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    My sister did kennel care and then trained to be a vet. All free back then of course (just before the first lot of fees) and she has shown it was money well spent by being a Quality Control supervisor in a fruit processor for the past 20 years :) More money well spent there.
     
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    Yes, I'm sure I read somewhere that being a vet is one of the most depressing jobs around. As you say most people who go into the job love animals but the job can be ugly, stressful and heart-wrenching. Most obviously any vet will have to put to sleep a significant number of animals and, of course, deal with owners who are either emotionally or financially invested in those animals. A really tough task and the reality is not what many expect.
     
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  9. SaintinSerbia

    SaintinSerbia Annoying Twat

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    Well yes, being a vet is more having to put down animals than saving them. It's emotionally tough. It's easier to sleep at night knowing you have preserved a nice pear! :)
     
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  10. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    When I lived in NZ, one of the first jobs that attracted my eye was a call from Southland Hospital in Invercargill to train as a Radiologist. At the time it appealed to me because it was an instant step on the ladder away from the humdrum job. My other focus at the time was teaching. So I was invited to Southland Hospital and, although it was very interesting, I knew fairly quickly that this career wasn't for me, but i wanted to see it through. We lived in the south of the South Island, and the record temperature for our region had just recently occurred at 23°C. Invercargill was 65km SW of us, and it was a damn sight colder, being that it had Antarctic winds coming at it all the time. That was probably enough in itself.
    I spoke with the chief surgeon, He definitely wasn't a Kiwi. In fact, he was definitely southern English. 5 years earlier he'd been travelling from Wimborne Minister to Southampton General Hospital, when Mrs Thatcher made her latest defence of NHS cutbacks, and he said to himself, 'that's it, I'm off'. So he ended up in NZ. He painted a nice picture, along with the head radiologist. Then we got taken around the hospital. We had white coats on, pens in pockets and clipboards for notes. And they let us wander a little bit. The number of times patients would call to me, 'Oi Doc' and ask me a question on their health, that in the end I had the stock answer of telling them to go to such-and-such a desk to ask. We went to the Ultrasound department, where a series of in-patients came in for their periodic check-ups. The doctor offered me their prognosis after they left. The amount of times he said 'dead within 2-3 months', or something similar I cannot tell you. There were definitely way more who weren't going to make it than were. He tested the Ultrasound on me, and fingers crossed I was fine. I got the feeling he wouldn't have told me anyway. By the time that we got to the final Radiology department the group of us had thinned to two people and she was looking a bit green. Halfway though seeing this bald middle-aged bloke [probably my age now] who'd been a heavy smoker all his life, the girl left to go to the bathroom and was never seen again. He was naked from the chest down and his right leg had been amputated at the hip joint. His left leg was almost entirely purple from the knee down. The only thing that was probably a normal colour was his genitals, and amazingly he had an erection too. He had no teeth in his head, and he was quite a sorry state. Now it was just me, so I was being given all the attention. I was asked to help slide a tube into his groin. We had white gloves on, but his erection still slapped at my hand, making my slightly appalled. Don't get me wrong, it wasn't anything perverted, it was the sight of this bloke who was so diseased and extremely ill, and the only truly healthy part of his body was his penis. I felt so sorry for him. Of course, then they just had to have an emergency. There had been a bad accident on the main highway, and the assistant took the tube out of the bloke's groin. Whereupon she placed a swab. But not before the bloke's heart had pumped a jet of blood onto the floor. I was asked to put my hand on the swab and stay until someone came to relieve me. Of course I didn't refuse. So I stood there with this guy for a few minutes, trying to chat about light things, and he was trying to ask me what was going to happen to him next. If they had meant it to be a baptism of fire they couldn't have planned it better. There was absolutely no way I was cut out for this. If I'd have made that my profession I'd have either left it soon enough or topped myself, because I'm sure you have to be a certain type to withstand the strains and horrors and not be too affected. It's one of the reasons why I believe the NHS shouldn't have to worry about where the next funding is coming from. It's why, whatever they pay those in the direct line in the medical profession, they don't pay them enough. They have my utmost respect. So much so that I'd want to pay doctors and nurses what top footballers get, and top footballers what doctors and nurses get. That would be fair and just.
     
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  11. benditlikeabanana

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    If a fox gets into a coup it will kill every animal inside that coup and eat one or two, call it what you like, enjoyment or bloodlust, the animal is not killing to eat every dead bird.
    Shooting has been tried but does not work, as it does not allow for killing the fit or old, and the cost of paying someone to hide in a ditch for 4 days to shoot a fox is offputting to the local authorities as the farmers wont pay for it. Farmers would resort to more basic control like trapping and poisen, this then damages othertypes of wildlife like badgers and is also a danger to kids and domestic animals, there is simply no way of culling foxes, hunting was not that effective either but the fox population was never that big- nature finds a balance
     
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  12. SaintinSerbia

    SaintinSerbia Annoying Twat

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    That is probably the biggest load of bollocks I've read for a while but I'm watching the match. be back
     
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  13. SaintinSerbia

    SaintinSerbia Annoying Twat

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    1. foxes have no concept of enjoyment or bloodlust
    2. 99% of chickens live in a cage in a shed and we kill them
    3. I could probably shoot 10 foxes a day if I had a gun
    4. fox hunting does nothing to control foxes, it's just a day out
    5. the 1% of chickens who live in coups would be safe if their owners built a good fence
    6. the fox is the biggest natural predator left in the UK, because we killed all the others and actually keeps the population of rabbits, rats and mice down, protecting our crops (and doesn't spend it's time eating ****ing chickens!)
     
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  14. SaintinSerbia

    SaintinSerbia Annoying Twat

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    Oh and of course, this fox hunting thing was a blinding strategy from Theresa to distract us plebs away from the important diabolical strategies of her government!
     
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  15. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Just for 5 minutes.

    Labour have pledged to nationalise the railways and do away with tuition fees. There used to be a time when I might ask how they would pay for that, but seeing as the Tories make just as many outlandish statements I'm not going to bother. Somebody else can: https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-to-end-tuition-fees-and-nationalise-railways
     
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  16. Whiteley Saint

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    How are they going to pay for that? :emoticon-0142-happy
     
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  17. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    You are going to pay for that. That's how. ;)
     
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  18. I Sorry I Ruined The Party

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    Imagine if Puel had Saints in 20th place because he insisted on playing a 1-9-1 formation and McCarthy in goal.
    Every fan would want him sacked for his incompetence. Now suppose Leibherr kept defending him saying how great a manager he was and insulting the supporters for their stance to boot. People would not be fond of KL either.

    Then one day Puel announces that he has information that KL has been stealing club funds. The next day, KL suddenly sacks Puel out of the blue.

    It's not hypocritical to both dislike Puel AND KL. Or to want him gone, but be irate at the reason for his firing. Or to still dislike KL even though she sacked Puel. In fact it's totally rational to dislike KL even more, because she was perfectly happy to **** over the fans as long as Puel was silent about her stealing, and only cared when her own self-preservation was at stake.

    Now imagine that KL jimmies up a fake letter that in a sad attempt to makes it seem like she has been trying to sack Puel for performance all along when everyone knows she hasn't.

    And let's say she writes up another letter to Puel in sacking him that says "Even though you and I agree that I am the greatest owner Saints has ever had and would never ever steal from the club, I must fire you due to club performance."

    Why is that sentence even in the letter? It's reeks of covering ones ass. It's such a poor attempt, it's only going to make people angrier.

    That, in a nutshell, is the Trump situation. No one is buying it. Not even Republicans. The best they can do is say "Hey it certainly LOOKS bad... but there's still no evidence there was collusion. Until I see fire, I will ignore all smoke."

    There's only two ways to look at it. Trump is not hiding anything, but he's total incompetent who completely botched the situation and is now busy digging himself an ever deeper hole over nothing. Or, Trump's crazy decision making can only be the last ditch efforts of a guilty and desperate man. Neither look is good for him.

    I mean, Trump's base is buying it. Because they'll buy anything from him. But I think even some of them are reaching their limit.
     
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  19. Saints_Alive

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    By taxing the mega rich I should hope....
     
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  20. Whiteley Saint

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    There won't be any left soon the amount they are going to be taxed. They're all off to the Bahamas with their money stuffed in their suitcases. :emoticon-0164-cash:
     
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