It's all looking quite pathetic at the moment. His authority is draining away but he's clinging on and none of the Cabinet seem to have the balls to challenge him. Or to put it another way:
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I didn't think he should lead him to the next GE, but doing this the week of the Kings Speech makes them look more farcical.
Best bet is that someone (probably Streeting) is pushing right now to try and freeze out Burnham.
Farage probably out spending some of that £5m foreign crypto billionaire money in celebration tonight.
Best bet is that someone (probably Streeting) is pushing right now to try and freeze out Burnham.
Farage probably out spending some of that £5m foreign crypto billionaire money in celebration tonight.
It's shooting themselves in the foot. All this over local elections forced on them by Reform. In the end we have wasted a month that could have been better spent improving the livelihoods of the public. In the end by the next GE the level of wealth the average person is feeling will be the decider of the winner not who appointed Mandleson.
Best thing Starmer could do is to call a General Election and resign. Those that are betraying him wll lose their seats. The whole political scene can restart from scratch. I don't like Reform but perhaps that is what it needs?
A Reform government, if that's what we end up with, woukd be an unmitigated disaster. Farage is a grifter, a con artist, a self absorbed morally bankrupt chancer who makes Boris Johnson look honest in comparison.
Every Labour MP who’s demanded Starmer quit as number reaches 81
Every Labour MP who’s demanded Starmer quit as number reaches 81
Sir Keir Starmer’s fightback speech on Monday has failed to stop more Labour MPs calling for his resignation
www.independent.co.uk
He's toast.
The problem for the centre is that when the country becomes angry about issues they perceive as not being addressed, they turn to the more extreme parties for answers. Especially if those parties are promising to resolve exactly those issues, as we see with Reform.
I would say at the moment one of the biggest concerns across the country are (illegal) asylum seekers (and the crimes associated with them) and a growing, more powerful and demanding Muslim population. Starmer is seen as not addressing illegal immigration and sucking up to the Muslim minority, and people think Reform is the answer to their problems. I doubt many look beyond that, not because they are stupid but because Reform are the only party prepared to resolve the issues that matter to them at this time.
Those issues may not be regarded as real or important to some but for those who feel strongly will, rightly or wrongly, vote for Reform.
The blame for that IMO is not Reform voters but squarely with the parties who have been in power before. They have not listened to many people's concerns and in some cases have insulted them for raising them.
That IMO, is why we are where we are now.
Every Labour MP who’s demanded Starmer quit as number reaches 81
Every Labour MP who’s demanded Starmer quit as number reaches 81
Sir Keir Starmer’s fightback speech on Monday has failed to stop more Labour MPs calling for his resignation
He's toast.
The problem for the centre is that when the country becomes angry about issues they perceive as not being addressed, they turn to the more extreme parties for answers. Especially if those parties are promising to resolve exactly those issues, as we see with Reform.
I would say at the moment one of the biggest concerns across the country are (illegal) asylum seekers (and the crimes associated with them) and a growing, more powerful and demanding Muslim population. Starmer is seen as not addressing illegal immigration and sucking up to the Muslim minority, and people think Reform is the answer to their problems. I doubt many look beyond that, not because they are stupid but because Reform are the only party prepared to resolve the issues that matter to them at this time.
Those issues may not be regarded as real or important to some but for those who feel strongly will, rightly or wrongly, vote for Reform.
The blame for that IMO is not Reform voters but squarely with the parties who have been in power before. They have not listened to many people's concerns and in some cases have insulted them for raising them.
That IMO, is why we are where we are now.
Maybe im naive, but i really don't understand the obsession with immigration. What i see is a cynical media pandering to people's worst fears and prejudices. This is true of most of the press in this country, and as for social media, that's an emotional cesspit owned and manipulated by oligarchs intent on stirring up hate (I'm looking at you, Elon Musk) to divert attention from the real crisis that is undermining western civilisation - the widening chasm of income inequality.
People are pissed off and angry because they are poorer than their grandparents were, and don't see much in the way of opportunities for any but the most fortunate. Of course it suits the billionaire media barons to see immigrants blamed for the failure of free market fundamentalism. Only fools fall for it though.
Pissed off and angry people gravitate towards extremes, on thst we can agree; and hustory tells us that never ends well.
One of the biggest drivers of immigration is Climate Change which is definitely not been dealt with in modern day short-termism politics. It's hard when you need all countries to contribute.
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So are yoi calling for Muslims to stop reproducing , not seek democratic representation and to desist with electing their MPs to parliament who shamefully represent the people who voted for them in their constituencies ?
So are yoi calling for Muslims to stop reproducing , not seek democratic representation and to desist with electing their MPs to parliament who shamefully represent the people who voted for them in their constituencies ?
Labour should stop with the infighting for the full term. They need to be better than the 14 years of chaos that was the fundamental reason that saw them elected.
These massive parties just can't help themselves tearing themselves from the inside out the second they sniff power.
These massive parties just can't help themselves tearing themselves from the inside out the second they sniff power.
Agreed. It looks like egotism and self interest has the got the better of most of these MPs.
100%.
Labour have done some great things in the past two years and Starmer specifically has handled the geopolitical aspect of the role during his stint as PM significantly better than any of the challengers or other party leaders could.
His fundamental internal issue is that many of the cabinet members are overly virtuous grandstanders that aren't playing his same long game.
The calls for him to leave after 2 years are frankly pathetic and representative of a complete lack of understanding of the compounding effect of stability can have on a country.
Good if he doesn't, the country is far better off if he doesn't become PM.
He will be more unpopular than Starmer imo.
In fairness Badenoch and Farage would have had us balls deep in the Iran ****show, so its not entirely without merit.
Don’t bother wasting your breath on sucky