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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. ImpSaint

    ImpSaint Well-Known Member

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    Its looking like Labour's decision to give 16 year olds the vote is going to well and truly kick the in the teeth. When it was either Labour/Tory that were the only realistic options to vote for a "contender" the majority were virtually nailed on Labour votes but now the Greens have entered contention and this generation looking like they are much more ideological either way (right or left) they may just have added more green votes to their left!
     
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    Assuming quoted correctly, unequivocal imo. I suppose the next question will be the ref / ratio of “part” but 68k is pretty damning. Thanks for sharing.
     
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    Primarily because a number of their citizens were massacred and a number taken hostage.

    Hamas held those hostages, triggered a war and then left their own citizens in harms way.
    Those hostages were not returned, because it suited them politically to hold them as they strangely gained support the longer they held them to keep the war going.
     
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    StJabbo1 Well-Known Member

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    Hamas weren't gaining support, the Palestinians at the receiving end of a disproportional response did.
     
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  5. saintlyhero

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    you might see the distinction, but Hamas dont
     
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  6. AberdeenSaint

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    Interesting point, which reminds me of a visit I made to Israel in 1980. I was working as an Engineer on a P&O refrigerated cargo ship loading citrus fruit to take back to North Europe. We were in Haifa and a few of us blagged a day trip into Jerusalem to visit the sights (Bethlehem, wailing wall, Mount of Olives etc). Anyway, what I`ll never forget is that every taxi I saw in Jerusalem was a Mercedes - this was only 35 years after the end of the war. I was stunned at the time what short memories the Israelis seemed to have. I`m not surprised 45 years on that they are seemingly oblivious that their actions on Gaza may seem like genocide.
     
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  7. Ian Thumwood

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    Anti Trump protests in America have attracted huge numbers but reports of some governors bringing in the civil guard to police the demonstrations. I think the anto Trump movement will grow to the extent that Trump will impliment legislation to make this illegal. Just have a feeling that Trump will clamp down and we won't see these protests in 12 month's time.

    Just wonder how quickly we will see a MAGA counter protest.
     
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