Off Topic Politics Thread

[Saintjoey]

It comes as dozens of Palestinians, including children, were killed on Saturday in the area where the operation took place

Truly a time for celebration

Shock horror. Keeping hostages in your home gets you killed and makes you a legitimate target under international law. The incredible video shows Hamas spraying machine gun fire and rocket launchers at them after their escape. Not a great idea in built up areas. Aren’t you interested to know how many civilians were killed by Hamas?

The world really is upside down when people are quicker to criticise a heroic rescue than they are at Hamas for taking them in the first place and with civilians for being complicit.

 

[StJabbo1]

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[StJabbo1]

Lot of work done by various committees in parliament not getting the media coverage the should. EG:-
It's the same old ship-show!
P&O wages, Issue 1624
"P&O FERRIES boss Peter Hebblethwaite, infamous for unlawfully sacking 786 workers a couple of years ago to save his company's owners – the Dubai state – a few quid, was back before the Commons business and trade select committee this month to discuss a subject not exactly dear to his heart: workers' rights and protections.
Committee chair Liam Byrne MP began by asking Hebblethwaite if he was a "modern-day pirate", prompting a bizarre defence of what the latter called a "very difficult decision" in 2022."
https://www.private-eye.co.uk/issue-1624/in-the-back

 

[It'sOnlyAGame]

Shock horror. Keeping hostages in your home gets you killed and makes you a legitimate target under international law. The incredible video shows Hamas spraying machine gun fire and rocket launchers at them after their escape. Not a great idea in built up areas. Aren’t you interested to know how many civilians were killed by Hamas?

The world really is upside down when people are quicker to criticise a heroic rescue than they are at Hamas for taking them in the first place and with civilians for being complicit.

This war has been a Godsend to the anti-Semites of this world.

 

[StJabbo1]

This war has been a Godsend to the anti-Semites of this world.

This war has been a Godsend to the extremist settlers, the Jewish ultranationalists, those who have threatened friends who belong to groups opposing the ultras at gunpoint. Questions about ignored warnings of the Hamas attack remain unanswered.

 

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Shock horror. Keeping hostages in your home gets you killed and makes you a legitimate target under international law. The incredible video shows Hamas spraying machine gun fire and rocket launchers at them after their escape. Not a great idea in built up areas. Aren’t you interested to know how many civilians were killed by Hamas?

The world really is upside down when people are quicker to criticise a heroic rescue than they are at Hamas for taking them in the first place and with civilians for being complicit.

Can you point out where he blamed Israel for this? If you are saying being sad at the death of children is offensive now, we really have fallen a long way.
Hamas is evil. It places innocents in danger. Does that make it right to take the bait and sacrifice the lives of ten children for one hostage adult?

It is a horrible situation all round. Hamas and the Israeli state are both coming out of this poorly.

 

[StJabbo1]

Can you point out where he blamed Israel for this? If you are saying being sad at the death of children is offensive now, we really have fallen a long way.
Hamas is evil. It places innocents in danger. Does that make it right to take the bait and sacrifice the lives of ten children for one hostage adult?

It is a horrible situation all round. Hamas and the Israeli state are both coming out of this poorly.

Poorly hardly does justice to the barbaric inhumane behaviour of both Hamas and the IDF.

 

[Schrodinger's Cat]

Poorly hardly does justice to the barbaric inhumane behaviour of both Hamas and the IDF.

And we mustn't forget Hamas isn't Palestine, it's just what grew in the power vacuum. The ordinary Palestinians are the victims here, along with the hostages taken by both sides. To blame them for Hamas is unfair.

 

[StJabbo1]

And we mustn't forget Hamas isn't Palestine, it's just what grew in the power vacuum. The ordinary Palestinians are the victims here, along with the hostages taken by both sides. To blame them for Hamas is unfair.

To punish the Palestinians to the edge of genocide is more than unfair. For Hamas to have embedded themselves into the population is equally despicable.

 

[tomw24]

Hunter Biden's going to prison then.

 

[Gregm1988]

Hunter Biden's going to prison then.

But I thought Biden was the grand puppet master who had rigged and politicised the justice system against his political opponents?

 

[tomw24]

But I thought Biden was the grand puppet master who had rigged and politicised the justice system against his political opponents?

I know! Given how damning the evidence was in this case (hence why it only took the jury 3 hours to convict) it would have been absolute carnage had he got off!

 

[Archers Road]

Hopefully doesn’t need saying, but Joe Biden is not personally responsible for the actions of his adult son.

 

[Gregm1988]

Hopefully doesn’t need saying, but Joe Biden is not personally responsible for the actions of his adult son.

The MAGA cult won’t see it this way though. In their world he is responsible and the grand puppet master. But also Trump is not responsible for his own crimes and doesn’t need to be held to account. Bizarro world

 

[Saintjoey]

And we mustn't forget Hamas isn't Palestine, it's just what grew in the power vacuum. The ordinary Palestinians are the victims here, along with the hostages taken by both sides. To blame them for Hamas is unfair.

Ordinary Palestinians like the ones hiding these hostages in their homes just like the 4 who were rescued? Or like the hundreds that crossed the border to kill Jews on 7/10?

I’m not saying the whole of the Palestinian population deserve this barbaric assault, of course they don’t, but it’s totally naive to ignore polls that show the vast majority of Gazans support 7/10 and still, even now 80% support Hamas and the figure is even higher in the West Bank. They are taught in school that it is martyrdom to kill Jews. Hamas are not some random terrorist minority, they are an elected government.

 

[StJabbo1]

Hopefully doesn’t need saying, but Joe Biden is not personally responsible for the actions of his adult son.

And has said he'll accept the verdict and sentence. The comparison between the demeanors couldn't be more evident.

 

[Saintjoey]

To punish the Palestinians to the edge of genocide is more than unfair. For Hamas to have embedded themselves into the population is equally despicable.

I agree with you, but, as per my post above, if there was a democratic vote tomorrow, Hamas would still win.

 

[tomw24]

Hopefully doesn’t need saying, but Joe Biden is not personally responsible for the actions of his adult son.

It should also be said how horrifying and heart breaking it must be to see their child (no matter how old) become addicted to cocaine and alcohol. If he gets a light sentence (i.e. probation) which is very possible, Trump and his cronies will say it's because he's the president's son. Not that he's battled drug and alcohol abuse and probation would be better for his rehab. Anyone who tries to score political points from something like this needs a serious lesson in morality. Although that would be pointless with Trump as he has all the morals and compassion of a sewer rat.

 

[StJabbo1]

It should also be said how horrifying and heart breaking it must be to see their child (no matter how old) become addicted to cocaine and alcohol. If he gets a light sentence (i.e. probation) which is very possible, Trump and his cronies will say it's because he's the president's son. Not that he's battled drug and alcohol abuse and probation would be better for his rehab. Anyone who tries to score political points from something like this needs a serious lesson in morality. Although that would be pointless with Trump as he has all the morals and compassion of a sewer rat.

Sewer rats will take exception at being likend to the abominable Trump.

 

[StJabbo1]

I agree with you, but, as per my post above, if there was a democratic vote tomorrow, Hamas would still win.

If only there was some way of resolving this aged conflict. Our Israeli Christian friends live in harmony within a Muslim and Jewish community increasingly threatened by the ultras.