Off Topic Politics Thread

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I'm continually amazed at what some people will think is acceptable, as long as the end justifies the means. Trump's MAGA army genuinely seem to believe that he's already proved he's the best man for the job from his last stint in the White House, and they're happy to believe that the election was stolen by the 'criminal' Biden family, ergo they were being patriots, not taking part in an insurrection at all...baffles me how people can be so blind.
It's not much better in this country across large swathes of the population - we love a good 3 word slogan and someone to blame for all societies ills.
That someone, possibly a lawyer or judge, will be tagged woke lefty or is lefty woke right?
 
I'm continually amazed at what some people will think is acceptable, as long as the end justifies the means. Trump's MAGA army genuinely seem to believe that he's already proved he's the best man for the job from his last stint in the White House, and they're happy to believe that the election was stolen by the 'criminal' Biden family, ergo they were being patriots, not taking part in an insurrection at all...baffles me how people can be so blind.
It's not much better in this country across large swathes of the population - we love a good 3 word slogan and someone to blame for all societies ills.
Count me in …

Stop the Trumps
Make the NHS Great Again
 
I'm continually amazed at what some people will think is acceptable, as long as the end justifies the means. Trump's MAGA army genuinely seem to believe that he's already proved he's the best man for the job from his last stint in the White House, and they're happy to believe that the election was stolen by the 'criminal' Biden family, ergo they were being patriots, not taking part in an insurrection at all...baffles me how people can be so blind.
It's not much better in this country across large swathes of the population - we love a good 3 word slogan and someone to blame for all societies ills.

I think it comes down to policy driven politics again.
I’m not huge on US politics so don’t know loads about the other Republican candidates. I’ve seen a couple of debates and that’s about it. But they can’t be any worse than a criminal with utter disdain for the constitution
 
London is now in the north, or so it would seem, as millions of pounds of the Network North scheme, is to be used for improving roads in London, according to the Department of Transport.
You couldn’t make it up.
Figures apparently show that the government spends more than £800 per person on transport in London and £359 per person in the North.
Levelling up. :emoticon-0112-wonde
 
Just imagine if political parties could bid for politiciañs like PL.clubs bid for foorballers! Pedro Sánchez would be most highly sought after, as he is supremely competent, fair-minded, brings in measures that help those on lower incomes (energy and public transport), has a pluralistic view of the world and is fluent in at least two languages. His bearing contrasts sharply with what the British public have had to endure for the past thirteen years.
 
Hmm, you sure about that?

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Lost more cases than Ryanair.:emoticon-0136-giggl
Absofuckinglutly! Thanks for the reminder to bung them some more dosh.
"Our most recent statistics are broadly in-line with our historical statistics. But both the general data (in the Supreme Court and the High Court) and anecdote suggests it is getting much harder to win judicial reviews. In the face of attacks from Ministers, including the Prime Minister, and dark-money-funded projects like the Judicial Power Project, the judiciary (at least in England and Wales) is retreating from scrutiny of Ministerial governance. It is becoming much more difficult to bring cases of this type."
https://goodlawproject.org/just-how-successful-are-we-autumn22/
And.
"Leaked emails reveal that the tech giant Palantir has hired Topham Guerin to pay influencers to attack Good Law Project on social media – but the source of the money is to be kept ‘confidential’."
https://goodlawproject.org/pr-firm-...-offers-to-pay-influencers-attacks-twitter-x/
 
Absofuckinglutly! Thanks for the reminder to bung them some more dosh.
"Our most recent statistics are broadly in-line with our historical statistics. But both the general data (in the Supreme Court and the High Court) and anecdote suggests it is getting much harder to win judicial reviews. In the face of attacks from Ministers, including the Prime Minister, and dark-money-funded projects like the Judicial Power Project, the judiciary (at least in England and Wales) is retreating from scrutiny of Ministerial governance. It is becoming much more difficult to bring cases of this type."
https://goodlawproject.org/just-how-successful-are-we-autumn22/
And.
"Leaked emails reveal that the tech giant Palantir has hired Topham Guerin to pay influencers to attack Good Law Project on social media – but the source of the money is to be kept ‘confidential’."
https://goodlawproject.org/pr-firm-...-offers-to-pay-influencers-attacks-twitter-x/

No need to thank me, it's your dosh to bung in any direction you like. I'm sure the GLP appreciates your generosity when taking it's 10% cut win or lose (mostly lose). And that's the point, the GLP doesn't have to win because it's discovered a nice little earner; crowdfunding. Particularly when its for a worthy cause that whips up emotions. You can take the GLP's own version of events in that it's all a government conspiracy (and that is wholly understandable given that you already donate your own money) or you can read some alternatives. I can only post them, if you don't want to read them it could be your loss.

https://thecritic.co.uk/bad-law-project/
"Being overly optimistic about your projects is, of course, not a crime and the principle of “caveat emptor” applies to crowdfunding as much as any other attempt to part a fool from his money. But there is something quite particular about an organisation that seeks to exploit the natural distaste of many for political cronyism and corruption by promoting highly inaccurate spin over truth and taking 10% of money raised for its “core running costs”".

https://labourpainsblog.com/2023/01/03/good-law-project-not-lookin-like-a-true-survivor/
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Now that you are bunging some more dosh at the GLP, going by their past performances it looks like it will end up in the hands of the Conservative government before long. I don't know how they will spend it but those flights to Rwanda don't come cheap.

https://order-order.com/2023/11/28/good-law-project-gave-over-500000-to-the-government-since-2017/
"It looks like Hunt has the Good Law Project to thank for a good chunk of his fiscal headroom – it’s been a strong net donor to HM Treasury’s coffers since 2017. The government’s answer to a written question from Sir John Hayes sums up Jolyon’s donations over the past years.

“There were 52 cases against His Majesty’s Government in which the Good Law Project were involved as a party which concluded in the period since the start of the 2017-18 financial year. HM Government won 14 and lost 2 of those cases, 15 cases were settled, and 31 cases withdrawn by the Good Law Project.

In total, the Good Law Project has paid £539,766.19 in legal costs to HM Government, while HM Government has paid £63,738.71 in legal costs to the Good Law Project.

In financial year 2017-2018, no payments were made or received.

In financial year 2018-2019, £40,000.00 was paid to, and £4,753.00 was received from, the Good Law Project.

In financial year 2019-2020, £0 was paid to, and £59,013.19 was received from, the Good Law Project.

In financial year 2020-2021, £0 was paid to, and £10,000.00 was received from, the Good Law Project.

In financial year 2021-2022, £0 was paid to, and £270,000.00 was received from, the Good Law Project.

In financial year 2022-2023, £23,738.71 was paid to, and £196,000.00 was received from, the Good Law Project.

In financial year 2023-2024 to date, no payments have been made or received.”

In total, the government has cashed in £539,766 in legal costs from the Good Law Project and given up only £63,738. Jolyon might be worrying about the company’s bottom line now that his hapless fans are cottoning on to the fact that their hard-earned cash is going straight to the government. The Treasury could lose a valued customer…"
 
No need to thank me, it's your dosh to bung in any direction you like. I'm sure the GLP appreciates your generosity when taking it's 10% cut win or lose (mostly lose). And that's the point, the GLP doesn't have to win because it's discovered a nice little earner; crowdfunding. Particularly when its for a worthy cause that whips up emotions. You can take the GLP's own version of events in that it's all a government conspiracy (and that is wholly understandable given that you already donate your own money) or you can read some alternatives. I can only post them, if you don't want to read them it could be your loss.

https://thecritic.co.uk/bad-law-project/
"Being overly optimistic about your projects is, of course, not a crime and the principle of “caveat emptor” applies to crowdfunding as much as any other attempt to part a fool from his money. But there is something quite particular about an organisation that seeks to exploit the natural distaste of many for political cronyism and corruption by promoting highly inaccurate spin over truth and taking 10% of money raised for its “core running costs”".

https://labourpainsblog.com/2023/01/03/good-law-project-not-lookin-like-a-true-survivor/
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Now that you are bunging some more dosh at the GLP, going by their past performances it looks like it will end up in the hands of the Conservative government before long. I don't know how they will spend it but those flights to Rwanda don't come cheap.

https://order-order.com/2023/11/28/good-law-project-gave-over-500000-to-the-government-since-2017/
"It looks like Hunt has the Good Law Project to thank for a good chunk of his fiscal headroom – it’s been a strong net donor to HM Treasury’s coffers since 2017. The government’s answer to a written question from Sir John Hayes sums up Jolyon’s donations over the past years.

“There were 52 cases against His Majesty’s Government in which the Good Law Project were involved as a party which concluded in the period since the start of the 2017-18 financial year. HM Government won 14 and lost 2 of those cases, 15 cases were settled, and 31 cases withdrawn by the Good Law Project.

In total, the Good Law Project has paid £539,766.19 in legal costs to HM Government, while HM Government has paid £63,738.71 in legal costs to the Good Law Project.

In financial year 2017-2018, no payments were made or received.

In financial year 2018-2019, £40,000.00 was paid to, and £4,753.00 was received from, the Good Law Project.

In financial year 2019-2020, £0 was paid to, and £59,013.19 was received from, the Good Law Project.

In financial year 2020-2021, £0 was paid to, and £10,000.00 was received from, the Good Law Project.

In financial year 2021-2022, £0 was paid to, and £270,000.00 was received from, the Good Law Project.

In financial year 2022-2023, £23,738.71 was paid to, and £196,000.00 was received from, the Good Law Project.

In financial year 2023-2024 to date, no payments have been made or received.”

In total, the government has cashed in £539,766 in legal costs from the Good Law Project and given up only £63,738. Jolyon might be worrying about the company’s bottom line now that his hapless fans are cottoning on to the fact that their hard-earned cash is going straight to the government. The Treasury could lose a valued customer…"
Order-order - Guido Fawkes yeah alright.
 
No need to thank me, it's your dosh to bung in any direction you like. I'm sure the GLP appreciates your generosity when taking it's 10% cut win or lose (mostly lose). And that's the point, the GLP doesn't have to win because it's discovered a nice little earner; crowdfunding. Particularly when its for a worthy cause that whips up emotions. You can take the GLP's own version of events in that it's all a government conspiracy (and that is wholly understandable given that you already donate your own money) or you can read some alternatives. I can only post them, if you don't want to read them it could be your loss.

https://thecritic.co.uk/bad-law-project/
"Being overly optimistic about your projects is, of course, not a crime and the principle of “caveat emptor” applies to crowdfunding as much as any other attempt to part a fool from his money. But there is something quite particular about an organisation that seeks to exploit the natural distaste of many for political cronyism and corruption by promoting highly inaccurate spin over truth and taking 10% of money raised for its “core running costs”".

https://labourpainsblog.com/2023/01/03/good-law-project-not-lookin-like-a-true-survivor/
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Now that you are bunging some more dosh at the GLP, going by their past performances it looks like it will end up in the hands of the Conservative government before long. I don't know how they will spend it but those flights to Rwanda don't come cheap.

https://order-order.com/2023/11/28/good-law-project-gave-over-500000-to-the-government-since-2017/
"It looks like Hunt has the Good Law Project to thank for a good chunk of his fiscal headroom – it’s been a strong net donor to HM Treasury’s coffers since 2017. The government’s answer to a written question from Sir John Hayes sums up Jolyon’s donations over the past years.

“There were 52 cases against His Majesty’s Government in which the Good Law Project were involved as a party which concluded in the period since the start of the 2017-18 financial year. HM Government won 14 and lost 2 of those cases, 15 cases were settled, and 31 cases withdrawn by the Good Law Project.

In total, the Good Law Project has paid £539,766.19 in legal costs to HM Government, while HM Government has paid £63,738.71 in legal costs to the Good Law Project.

In financial year 2017-2018, no payments were made or received.

In financial year 2018-2019, £40,000.00 was paid to, and £4,753.00 was received from, the Good Law Project.

In financial year 2019-2020, £0 was paid to, and £59,013.19 was received from, the Good Law Project.

In financial year 2020-2021, £0 was paid to, and £10,000.00 was received from, the Good Law Project.

In financial year 2021-2022, £0 was paid to, and £270,000.00 was received from, the Good Law Project.

In financial year 2022-2023, £23,738.71 was paid to, and £196,000.00 was received from, the Good Law Project.

In financial year 2023-2024 to date, no payments have been made or received.”

In total, the government has cashed in £539,766 in legal costs from the Good Law Project and given up only £63,738. Jolyon might be worrying about the company’s bottom line now that his hapless fans are cottoning on to the fact that their hard-earned cash is going straight to the government. The Treasury could lose a valued customer…"

I’m no expert in this, and I do back the GLP because they are pretty much the only ones who are trying to hold an extremely corrupt government to account, but it would be interesting to know the breakdown of the costs awarded.
I remember seeing reports of the government deliberately overloading their defence with a ridiculous amount of lawyers, in an attempt to scare the GLP into submission, you know like the very wealthy people do to stop lawsuits from even getting off the ground for fear of the plaintiff facing massive costs.
This is a win, win situation for the government as if they win the case the people who support GLP pay the costs and if they lose the case the people who pay taxes pay the costs, and that is what really should be under scrutiny.
 
I’m no expert in this, and I do back the GLP because they are pretty much the only ones who are trying to hold an extremely corrupt government to account, but it would be interesting to know the breakdown of the costs awarded.
I remember seeing reports of the government deliberately overloading their defence with a ridiculous amount of lawyers, in an attempt to scare the GLP into submission, you know like the very wealthy people do to stop lawsuits from even getting off the ground for fear of the plaintiff facing massive costs.
This is a win, win situation for the government as if they win the case the people who support GLP pay the costs and if they lose the case the people who pay taxes pay the costs, and that is what really should be under scrutiny.
Just as one example, the £1/2m costs for GLP is a drop in the ocean up against the Palantir £330m project. Follow the money
BMA, Amnesty, Civil Liberties Groups & X-Party MPs have expressed concerns about the deal
Peter Thiel, their billionairre founder & chair, told an Oxford Union debate in January that the NHS makes people sick and should be privatised, and Britons’ attachment to it showed they were exhibiting “Stockholm syndrome