All they have left is 'we will stop the boats'. They are an embarrassment to this country. The rhetoric gets more and more right wing and divisive, its just pedaled in the main by Suella, so that's OK! Bunch of Stooges, and they should be finished.
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garysfc
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Here is my issue. Why not just re-write the damn narrative and tell us how immigration will boost the economy? Get the new people building houses, working in hospitals, etc. We could have a kind of two year national service if you want to enter the country where you have to work on projects which would benefit the nation. How quickly would attitudes change if the benefits of immigration weren’t hidden in statistics?
Even this hopeless government knows we need immigrants; care homes are currently recruiting directly from Africa and Asia, and I’m sure that’s not the only sector doing so. All the Stop The Boats nonsense is simply an appeal to the prejudice and ignorance of certain sections of the electorate.
Stop the Boats as a policy is not only unnecessary, it has arisen as a deliberate consequence of slowing down the processing of asylum claims in this country, and completely refusing to take up the French offer of processing claims there. The stoking up of the racism and xenophobia is the last desperate act of a failed government. Care homes, social care, the NHS, just about every sector of public and private employment is desperate for staff, and the only answer is immigration, just as it always has been.
In reality, people only have to look at the what the breeding programme does in an area such as Norfolk to realise we need immigration.
garysfc
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Not that I’m a reader or supporter in any sense but just read Julian Assange view on war & more importantly the media. Total sense unfortunately.
They haven’t really enacted any right leaning policies. They have basically been corrupt, inept and nothing like a conservative government.
Totally agree with this.
There are so many positives to immigration when done correctly. Instead we seem to have allowed the dregs in who are now singing about genocide and how much they hate the west. Truly a failure of epic proportions from multiple governments over the last 50 years.
Fwiw they should also do something like this with taxes. A breakdown of how many lives your money helped to save in the NHS etc would make taxes so much more palatable.
(They unfortunately can’t do this as they waste it all and people would be truly horrified if they see how their money is actually spent)
Confusión has reigned supreme for the past 13 years. Cameron was inept, May too tímid while everything that has been written about Bunter and "The Lettuce" has already been done.
As an ever so slightly right of centre person I think you have summed it up perfectly.
TBH I don’t care who we have, but we need a leader. A true leader that has balls and makes decisions.
The horrific events in Israel/Palestine and Ukraine shouldn't detract from the ongoing covid inquiry, module 2 is now underway.
https://covid19.public-inquiry.uk/
"Module 2 opened on 31 August 2022 and is split into parts. First, it will look into core political and administrative governance and decision-making for the UK. It will include the initial response, central government decision making, political and civil service performance as well as the effectiveness of relationships with governments in the devolved administrations and local and voluntary sectors. Module 2 will also assess decision-making about non-pharmaceutical measures and the factors that contributed to their implementation."
https://www.rcn.org.uk/Get-Help/Legal-help/COVID-19-inquiry
"Nursing staff were put at risk before and during COVID-19 and we remain unprepared for any future emergence of COVID-19, or any other health emergency.
The UK COVID-19 Inquiry and its findings will be crucial to shape the country's future plans for pandemic preparedness."
Rose Gallagher MBE Professional Lead for Infection Prevention and Control
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-in...ment-infighting-at-start-of-pandemic-12975851
A catalogue of criminal incompetance.
"Mr Keith revealed WhatsApp messages between Boris Johnson, Dominic Cummings and others "portray a depressing picture of a toxic atmosphere" during the pandemic. He said the messages also showed "factional infighting and internecine attacks on colleagues".
"A significant number of WhatsApp and diary entries refer to Matt Hancock. The messages imply Mr Johnson and a number of officials and advisers held the then health secretary in low regard. In particular, on account of an apparent tendency "to use their words, get over-excited and then make stuff up".
"Mr Cummings, the then prime minister's aide, sent a message to Mr Johnson saying: "You are going to have to lock down but there is no lockdown plan. It does not exist. SAGE haven't modelled it. The Department of Health and Social care don't have a plan."
"Sir Patrick Vallance, the chief scientific adviser to Mr Johnson's government, expressed his dismay in his diary about changes made to a scientific review of social distancing, noting that the advice had been "cherry-picked", which he found "quite extraordinary".
"On 2 March, Mr Cummings sent a text message to Lee Cain, the director of communications, saying the prime minister "doesn't think it's a big deal. He doesn't think anything can be done" about the virus.
But just 11 days later, on 13 March, Mr Keith disclosed that a senior Cabinet Office official visited Number 10 and said: "I think this country is headed for disaster. I think we're going to kill thousands of people."
https://covid19.public-inquiry.uk/
"Module 2 opened on 31 August 2022 and is split into parts. First, it will look into core political and administrative governance and decision-making for the UK. It will include the initial response, central government decision making, political and civil service performance as well as the effectiveness of relationships with governments in the devolved administrations and local and voluntary sectors. Module 2 will also assess decision-making about non-pharmaceutical measures and the factors that contributed to their implementation."
https://www.rcn.org.uk/Get-Help/Legal-help/COVID-19-inquiry
"Nursing staff were put at risk before and during COVID-19 and we remain unprepared for any future emergence of COVID-19, or any other health emergency.
The UK COVID-19 Inquiry and its findings will be crucial to shape the country's future plans for pandemic preparedness."
Rose Gallagher MBE Professional Lead for Infection Prevention and Control
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-in...ment-infighting-at-start-of-pandemic-12975851
A catalogue of criminal incompetance.
"Mr Keith revealed WhatsApp messages between Boris Johnson, Dominic Cummings and others "portray a depressing picture of a toxic atmosphere" during the pandemic. He said the messages also showed "factional infighting and internecine attacks on colleagues".
"A significant number of WhatsApp and diary entries refer to Matt Hancock. The messages imply Mr Johnson and a number of officials and advisers held the then health secretary in low regard. In particular, on account of an apparent tendency "to use their words, get over-excited and then make stuff up".
"Mr Cummings, the then prime minister's aide, sent a message to Mr Johnson saying: "You are going to have to lock down but there is no lockdown plan. It does not exist. SAGE haven't modelled it. The Department of Health and Social care don't have a plan."
"Sir Patrick Vallance, the chief scientific adviser to Mr Johnson's government, expressed his dismay in his diary about changes made to a scientific review of social distancing, noting that the advice had been "cherry-picked", which he found "quite extraordinary".
"On 2 March, Mr Cummings sent a text message to Lee Cain, the director of communications, saying the prime minister "doesn't think it's a big deal. He doesn't think anything can be done" about the virus.
But just 11 days later, on 13 March, Mr Keith disclosed that a senior Cabinet Office official visited Number 10 and said: "I think this country is headed for disaster. I think we're going to kill thousands of people."
Good source of verifiable information.
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/covid-inquiry-module-2-boris-johnson-government-response/
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/covid-inquiry-module-2-boris-johnson-government-response/
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Pretty hard for the current Government to act like a conservative Government when Bunter kicked them all out prior to.the 2019 election.
For me the UK Cons should modelo themselves on Germany's CDP when Merkel.was at.the helm.
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Hmm.. Seems like the incredibly confused narrative line Rishi is trying to feed everyone right now.
Bold claim to make given the dwindling living standards in the 13 (8 proper..) years they have had opportunities to create policy and drive change whilst in power.
UK politics seems to be heading back to the fight over the centre ground, which is where the majority of British peoples politics lay. It's been a crazy 8 years since the 2015 election but thankfully populism seems to be on the way out here.
Hmm.. Seems like the incredibly confused narrative line Rishi is trying to feed everyone right now.
Bold claim to make given the dwindling living standards in the 13 (8 proper..) years they have had opportunities to create policy and drive change whilst in power.
UK politics seems to be heading back to the fight over the centre ground, which is where the majority of British peoples politics lay. It's been a crazy 8 years since the 2015 election but thankfully populism seems to be on the way out here.
No, it’s true.
- Mass influx of uncontrolled & dangerous migrants (this was apparently a conspiracy but now we have seen thousands of pro-Hamas protestors in the streets of London chanting about genocide)
- Pushing of woke culture & erosion of Christian / family values
- Increased taxes
- Increased government censorship and control
- Rapid expansion of money supply and total misuse of taxpayer money & country resources.
- Degradation of law & order as they push policies that are too soft on criminals
I don’t really know that the Tories stood for in the last 13 years but it hasn’t been conservatism. I would say corruption and selfishness is really their only defining characteristic
Well we definitely agree on this! Though I think it's mainly the past 5 years this has really been the case. Cameron, Clegg and May were a lot of things but they were at the very least serious politicians.
People were charmed far too easily by Boris, Farage and the cabal of disaster capitalist chancers.
Their popular support is laughable really when you think about it. Sold a dream of fantasy and now we live in this weird limbo existence where no one got what they desired.
Plenty of people warned this would happen though...