Off Topic Politics Thread

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TheSecondStain said:
Oh I've heard the BS about Conservatism and Capitalism being the natural order of things. I even believed it for a milliseocnd once upon a time. With Conservatism loads of people lose badly while a significant proportion lose less badly, while a minority actually win. At least with Socialism everyone wins/loses more or less equally. And humans have been above the natural order of things for centuries. We can come together and make a better fairer world if we want to. There are just too many who want more of the pie for themselves at the moment. Doesn't mean to say it shouldn't be resisted.
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Its more basic than that. I would rather help than hinder. Care about and for my fellow beings. Any other way leads to conflict in all its destructive forms. There are still many who believe love is the drug. Us old hippies will soon be pushing up daisies but our grand kids know ... Dream on.
 
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"Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right............"

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tiggermaster said:
Its more basic than that. I would rather help than hinder. Care about and for my fellow beings. Any other way leads to conflict in all its destructive forms. There are still many who believe love is the drug. Us old hippies will soon be pushing up daisies but our grand kids know ... Dream on.
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Old hippies never die mate. They just move on to the commune in the sky :afro:
 
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In other news Paul Nuttall has declared he is not running for the leadership of UKIP. That would say to me that Stephen Wolfe is the most likely.
 
AL. said:
Or Suzanne Evans - she does have the slight obstacle of not actually being allowed in the party however.
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At this moment in time. The way things are and how people throw nasty names around. Stephen Wolfe (who happens to be UKIPs best politician anyway) is ideal.

A Barrister, born in moss side, has mixed race heritage.

So people can't call him thick, They can't say he is a posh boy and they can't shout racist at him...........or if they do then they need to start to take on Dian Abbot as well for her racism.

Ideal leader for a party like UKIP at the moment. Suzanne Evans isn't really a kipper. She is a BBC stooge, and is really a conservative. UKIP are needing someone that appeals to those Northern Labour votes as well as keeping those Tory defectors. I don't think they'll get that many off the Tories anyway.
 
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