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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. Saints_Alive

    Saints_Alive Well-Known Member

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    Just a follow up to that shocking phone call, this guy nails it and Trump is clearly breaking the law by using his office to intimidate.
    That's how he has always done business by threatening people that oppose him..

     
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  2. - Doing The Lambert Walk

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    Donald Trump is a historic loser. He's been losing bigly. Bigger than any other loser in history before him. SAD!

    The only president to lose the popular vote twice. The first president in 28 years to fail to win a second term. One of only 11 US presidents to lose out on a second term.

    LOSER!
     
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  3. - Doing The Lambert Walk

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    Onto a serious point now:

    When January 20 comes around, they should put Trump being removed from the White House on PPV channels because I would buy the **** out of that.
     
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  4. St. Luigi Scrosoppi

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    My personal message to all those sad lost souls who voted leave:-

    Never forget that it is easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.
     
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  5. StJabbo1

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  6. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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  7. San Tejón

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  8. Schad

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    Trump's primary defense is that he legitimately doesn't know right from wrong, and that makes it hard to pin down intent, which is necessary to get a conviction for a lot of offenses.

    That remains one of the wildest things about the Trump era: with the possible exception of the tax stuff, he has the capacity to get away with criming on a scale that few others could, because it's very easy for a lawyer to convince a jury that the President of the United States simply doesn't know how laws work. That feels like it's a significant negative in a president!
     
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  10. sotonsaint

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    Pcso's are the gifts that keep on giving , tie them up in knots and watch their heads explode without daddy pig there to back them up.
     
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  11. saintrichie123

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  12. ChilcoSaint

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    Jolyon Maugham on the government’s seizing of power from Parliament. Worrying times:


    Under cover of Christmas, with less than a day for scrutiny, and with No Deal as the only alternative, Parliament passed the European Union (Future Relationship) Act 2020. The process was described by the venerable Hansard Society as “an abdication of Parliament’s constitutional responsibilities to deliver proper scrutiny of the executive and the law” and a “farce”.

    Worse even than the absence of scrutiny – of legislation published less than a day before Parliament voted on it – is what that legislation does. It gives incredibly broad powers to Ministers to make laws and override Acts of Parliament. It has been described by the doyen of academic public lawyers, Professor Mark Elliott, as “the hoarding of power by the Government at the expense of respect for any part of the constitution that threatens its hegemony.”

    Section 31 of the Act gives a Minister power to “make such provision as [he] considers appropriate to implement… or otherwise for the purposes of dealing with matters arising out of, or related to, the Trade and Cooperation Agreement.” These are incredibly broad powers – given to a Minister not Parliament – to reshape every aspect of national life the EU previously touched on.

    And it is all but certain that Government will misuse these powers.

    In December, Government relied on other Henry VIII powers to abolish the operation of the state aid regime that existed before Brexit. That regime limited its ability to give financial assistance to companies. It prevented distortion of competition and at a more basic level ensured Government could not favour particular industries or individual companies over their rivals. You may well think we needed those rules. But what we are left with is no substantive state aid regime in the UK, with only loose guidance in place to govern how public authorities should act from 1 January onwards.

    The Government took this step purportedly in pursuance of a power in the EU Withdrawal Act 2018 to “prevent, remedy or mitigate” a “deficiency” arising from our departure from the EU. However, Government would have known it was on dodgy footing – the House of Lords committee tasked with scrutinising the use of these powers termed it “neither a welcome nor acceptable use of secondary legislation”. And we don’t think its actions were lawful.

    Shortly before Christmas we instructed Hausfeld LLP and leading Counsel Tim Buley QC and Yaaser Vanderman to take the first formal step in litigation, challenging the abuse of Henry VIII powers.

    Under cover of Christmas, with less than a day for scrutiny, and with No Deal as the only alternative, Parliament surrendered vast amounts of sovereignty to a dishonest Government. We intend to guard what is left.



    Thank you,

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  13. Onionman

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    When I returned, I wasn't going to post on the politics forum but this deserves mention. I've been spending a significant amount of time working with Onionman Jr to help him set up a new business.

    Today is the day he started buying supplies. Or tried to.

    The supplier of the core raw material into the business is based in the Czech Republic. We've tested supplies from loads of companies and theirs does the job better than anyone's. So today we went to order. No longer shipping to the UK because of the uncertainties around Brexit. We'll now need to source less effective supplies for at least the time being.

    I also went to buy something from another supplier. This one's UK-based, so no problem with supplies to us. However, I noticed on their website that that aren't shipping to the EU because their shipper's not ready to deal with the Brexit paperwork. So that's a UK company losing orders. I wonder how many people in the EU will change their supplier and never come back?

    A phrase springs readily to mind. Brexit: What a ****ing triumph!

    Vin
     
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    Thanks for that Vin. It's an actual example of the negative effects of Brexit more will emerge I'm sure, let's hope for some positives. All the best for your nipper's business.

    You may have read my post re friends and ex colleagues of mine who are no longer eligible for engineering and design posts in Europe. Many of the jobs posted online have words to the effect of the applicant must have the right to reside and work in the EU. A recruiter call me before Christmas re a short term project it didn't suit me but would have some in the UK. They couldn't be considered pre agreement because of the uncertainty, post agreement so far as I know each EU country will have its own rules possibly similar to the Dutch which are:-

    "You will be coming to the Netherlands after 31 December 2020
    If you will be coming to the Netherlands after 31 December 2020, you are not covered by the withdrawal agreement. In that case you will be subject to the Dutch regulations that govern working in the Netherlands. If you will be working in the Netherlands for less than 90 days, your employer must apply for an employment permit for you (Dutch) from the Employee Insurance Agency (UWV). If you will be working in the Netherlands for more than 90 days, your employer must apply for a combined residence and work permit for you (Dutch) from the IND".

    More here with links https://www.government.nl/topics/br...ermit-to-work-in-the-netherlands-after-brexit
     
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  16. StJabbo1

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  17. San Tejón

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    The comment about the EHIC continuing whilst still in date, is promising.
    Might be able to take Mrs Badger back to Spain after all, coronavirus willing.
     
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  18. San Tejón

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    Is Jeremy Hunt preparing for a leadership challenge?
    I am sure that he was also critical of Johnson’s decision making a few weeks back.
    Seems to be distancing himself.

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  19. saintrichie123

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