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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    Pretty sure does make decisions on a whim. He's notoriously lazy and is known for "not doing detail". He also has a desperate need for adulation
     
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    Looks like Johnson might be employing this guy, who was a disaster in Australia.

     
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    San Tejón Well-Known Member

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    Johnson blaming a “mutant algorithm” for ruining the exam results. :emoticon-0127-lipss

     
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    Maybe it wasn't a normal mutant algorithm, but a teenage ninja mutant algorithm.

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  6. Schrodinger's Cat

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    I expect it was here illegally too
     
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    The thing I mentioned about police being over-friendly with white supremacist types because the white supremacist types back the police? Yeah.



    The police were glad-handing with this band of heavily-armed vigilantes. The kid in grey with the backwards hat in the video? A couple minutes later, he opened fire on protesters (unprovoked and at random, by all indications), killing two. And then police just allowed him to walk away...no attempt to arrest him was made.

    The police chief also weirdly stated that the 17 year old vigilante was "trying to resolve a situation" caused by people being out after curfew. Also out after curfew? The 17 year old armed with an assault rifle that was palling around with the cops who then murdered two people!



    If you're black, any movement could be fatal. If you're white and outwardly supportive of the police, you are free to do as you please, and the police chief will suggest that it's someone else's fault that you murdered two people.
     
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  8. The Ides of March

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    I would say we are a moderate forum. I don't think anyone here would identify with the rubbish coming from the nutjob, Ian Gallaway. As far as I can see we like guys like David Lammy. As for Johnson, some on here give him an easy ride compared to Blair, he who managed to get all sides together in Northern Ireland and the Good Friday Agreement.
     
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    One immigrant we could do without!!
     
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  10. Schad

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    The vice-mayor of the town that charged all of those people for dubious felonies called for the police chief to be fired. Because, y'know, charging a bunch of people with crimes as retaliation is a bad thing. Wanna guess what happened?

    If you guessed "they decided that speaking out against police excesses was a crime and charged her, too", claim your prize!

    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/portsmouth_n_5f43dec4c5b6c00d03b20ca2?ri18n=true
     
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  11. SaintStu

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    I'd like to think the politics thread is mostly about fact checking and raising counter arguments to the messages coming from the government and the mass-media which will be more left leaning when you have a right wing government. There will be some strong personal opinions and some attacks directed at personalities rather than policies, but on the whole we can continue with some 'intelligent' discourse.
    As for Blair - he is a populist like most politicians these days. Most people who 'hate' him is because he took us to war against Iraq and the way that war was justified, and they are right that it was completely unjustified, but if they think another PM of any colour wouldn't have done the same when the USA came calling I think are misleading themselves.
     
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    Yes I honestly think Labour would have done better. Cheltenham, Liverpool vs Atletico the rugby and other mass gatherings wouldn't have gone ahead, that together with an earlier lockdown with proper closures of bars and restaurants. I can't see Corbyn or Starmer gung ho boasting about shaking hands with infected patients.That went well didn't it? Then of course there was the PPE cronyism contract awards oh and the care home fiasco lets not forget that. Advisers advise Government decides. In this case deciding which science to follow and blame shedding from day one.
    Next on the box please!
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    I think you are wrong about the mass media being left leaning, when a right wing government is in power.
    The Mail, Express, Sun and Telegraph are extremely right wing, which is why the Tories get away with so much.
    In the past a Labour Minister messing up anywhere near as badly as the current Tory cabinet, would be hounded by the press, just as Corbyn was, for ever and a day, which is why Labour governments were generally quick to sack someone.
    By getting rid of the MP responsible for an error, they were able to shut the media down.
    Now, we have a cabinet setting world beating standards for cock ups and as soon as Johnson says “Let’s move on”, the majority of the media drop it and move on.
    Regarding going to war with Iraq?
    Harold Wilson refused to join the USA in the Vietnam war, despite great pressure from President Johnson.
    Some PMs have the balls to do what is best for the country, and it’s people, even if it means going against Uncle Sam.
     
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    San Tejón Well-Known Member

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    Just spent 3+ hours filling out a form confirming that my wife is still terminally ill and still disabled as a result of her illness.
    The same information as I have given them twice before.
    I appreciate that benefit checks need to be made to ensure they aren’t paying benefits to a dead person or someone who has improved in their mobility, but why can’t it be a simple, one page document, that needs to be signed and stamped by a medical expert who knows you?
     
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    How to make stress more stressful..
     
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  16. Archers Road

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    Last year I helped my mum complete an application for mobility allowance. Pages and pages of it, endless questions, many of them irrelevant to her condition.
     
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  17. SaintStu

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    Sorry I meant the forum was perceived as left-leaning not the mass media - and was stating that this forum was countering some of the stories found in the media i.e. the perils of immigration
     
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    You couldn't be more wrong Beddy. We have a government that has turned lies, deceit, ignorance, nastiness, arrogance, stupidity and rank incompetence into an art form. Following the science? When did this bunch of useless toss pots ever follow the science? If they ever have followed the scientific advice they were given, it was weeks too late and only because public opinion and the media forced them to. By the time they shifted their position to appear more in line with what other scientifically led countries were doing, the damage had been done.

    Criticise Boris? The lazy useless fat idiot should be thrown in prison, along with the rest of his pathetic cabinet, for the sheer audacity of taking money from the state under the false pretence that they had earned their salaries. The only thing any of them have earned is scorn and derision for the way they have completely mismanaged just about everything since they came to power. It has nothing to do with Conservative, Labour or Liberal Democrats. It has everything to do with the utterly disgusting and morally bankrupt individuals who have been placed in positions of authority, and are completely useless at their jobs.

    So no, it doesn't mean this is a left wing forum. It probably does mean this forum has a fair number of people who care about society in general, the less fortunate and infirm among us, the environment, and would like to see the country have a competent government.
     
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    I don't often agree with you Godders, but well said

    Sorry Kaito :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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  20. San Tejón

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    Today’s form was 30 pages. It’s 40 pages if you need to use the extra sheets for additional information.
    Filling it in and returning it is time sensitive so it doesn’t help when having been told that, during the 32 minute phone call, the paperwork arrives 9 days later.

    Some questions in other forms, as you say, do seem irrelevant, such as the ESA form. That includes, if I recall correctly.
    Can you lift a bottle of milk?
    Can you put a pen in the breast pocket of your shirt/jacket?
     
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