Off Topic Politics Thread

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And more evidence that Rishi Sunak is possibly more right wing than Genghis Khan. Frontline workers who have their COVID-19 tests paid for by their employers are to pay income tax on the value of the test, as it is an earned benefit. Presumably if the entire NHS and care home workforce declines to be tested and dies of the virus, that would be a result for the Tories.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...in-uk-set-to-pay-extra-tax-for-covid-19-tests

Holy ****! I shouldn’t be shocked by anything this government do, but this I’d totally outrageous. I wonder how much lower they can go and when the British public will finally say “enough” and rise up .....
 
The time may be nigh. There is going to be massive trouble ahead on the economy. Defaults on loans in the hospitality sector have risen dramatically, although not as sharply as in the retail sector. Building societies have been withdrawing mortgage offers at more than 85% loan to value as a house price collapse now looks inevitable and they seek to avoid mass negative equity in the property market. Come the end of furlough there are going to be huge job losses. Rishi can do his best but it looks certain not to be good enough.
 
The time may be nigh. There is going to be massive trouble ahead on the economy. Defaults on loans in the hospitality sector have risen dramatically, although not as sharply as in the retail sector. Building societies have been withdrawing mortgage offers at more than 85% loan to value as a house price collapse now looks inevitable and they seek to avoid mass negative equity in the property market. Come the end of furlough there are going to be huge job losses. Rishi can do his best but it looks certain not to be good enough.
Rishi can **** right off.
 
And more evidence that Rishi Sunak is possibly more right wing than Genghis Khan. Frontline workers who have their COVID-19 tests paid for by their employers are to pay income tax on the value of the test, as it is an earned benefit. Presumably if the entire NHS and care home workforce declines to be tested and dies of the virus, that would be a result for the Tories.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...in-uk-set-to-pay-extra-tax-for-covid-19-tests
A Saints supporter allegedly.
 
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"As for the police response, that is to be expected, and could also be considered a skewed perspective."

Explain, without divergence to any other topic what you meant.

I am totally on board with David Lammy and we need more social and welfare reforms. I dislike efforts to make this BAME vs the police. That is not going well in America and it won't go well here.

Internal investigations very often return the result that the investigators want.
 
So, that means they are biased and self-serving? You said it, but denied it. Now you say it again in yet another way.

If that’s what you want it to mean, then feel free.
For someone who says that he supports BLM it’s a shame that you haven’t raised one query against the Met, for having stopped and searched the same black man 20 times, a man without a record.
Clearly the link to the stop and search stats didn’t cause you any concern either.
We will just have to agree to disagree on this.
 
If that’s what you want it to mean, then feel free.
For someone who says that he supports BLM it’s a shame that you haven’t raised one query against the Met, for having stopped and searched the same black man 20 times, a man without a record.
Clearly the link to the stop and search stats didn’t cause you any concern either.
We will just have to agree to disagree on this.

If that is what I want it to mean? How can it mean anything else?

I love that "for someone who say that he supports BLM" bit. That is masterful. I have posted a lengthy explanation on my feelings - and about the police as a distraction from real issues - already. I am saying I support the police and BLM - and I do. Therefore, when the police says it has video evidence of someone driving on the wrong side of the road, accelerating when asked to stop and then refusing to get out of the car, I tend to think they must have that evidence because sooner or later someone will want to see it. But, as you prefer to believe they are lying and others put it down to masonic lodges, I guess that now even believing the police makes me anti-BLM.

I prefer to keep working towards better lives for all in my real life, rather than continuing to stoke up this US vs THEM rhetoric which never lead anywhere. BLM are us and the police are us too.
 
Yours was only one word. Anti-intellectual hah done well. Touched a nerve there I think.

Yes, you have. Because butting into a conversation with barely anything to say and nothing but mumbo-jumbo about masonic lodges to contribute seems to me to detract from discussion rather than add to it.

If you wanted to go into your thoughts on the police being essentially corrupt and support it with some of the evidence floating about that masons still exist, I could respect that. But posting that image as if it justified in and of itself any stance whatsoever? Come on.
 
Yes, you have. Because butting into a conversation with barely anything to say and nothing but mumbo-jumbo about masonic lodges to contribute seems to me to detract from discussion rather than add to it.

If you wanted to go into your thoughts on the police being essentially corrupt and support it with some of the evidence floating about that masons still exist, I could respect that. But posting that image as if it justified in and of itself any stance whatsoever? Come on.
You're taking yourself and me to seriously. Did I say the police were essentially corrupt? No but plenty of bent ones in there ends justifying the means. Institutionally racist as are the armed forces there's a case for. The influence of masonry well documented in the past perhaps not so intrusive now.