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Gobshite a favourite description of mine equally appropriate for chump or spaffer.
Rishi has apparently informed Pfeffel that the likely outcome of Covid is 3.5 million unemployed. It's not clear yet whether this factors in the effects of a No Deal Brexit (NDB) It seems that many hospitality businesses won't reopen. Franky&Benny's seems to have decided to permanently close many of their restaurants and this includes Wagamama which is also owned by them.
I'm hearing that local to me a standoff is developing between the brewer Adnams and their tenants who, despite having no income for months will still be liable for rents on tied houses. The word is that the brewery will attempt to recoup the money by adding a premium after the crisis. Most tenants struggle to survive as it is due to crippling rents and their inability to sell products not supplied by the brewery at higher prices that available onntyevopen market.
So, on to NDB. The Pfeffel administration will push on regardless with this. It seems that for the sake of a few million quids worth of fish ( Most of which are species that UK diners eschew but are sought after by Europeans) the whole project will go Titanic. Unfortunately there is only room on the lifeboats for a few - step forward Mr.Rees Mogg and his ghastly tribe of mad lookalikes.
I'm hearing that local to me a standoff is developing between the brewer Adnams and their tenants who, despite having no income for months will still be liable for rents on tied houses. The word is that the brewery will attempt to recoup the money by adding a premium after the crisis. Most tenants struggle to survive as it is due to crippling rents and their inability to sell products not supplied by the brewery at higher prices that available onntyevopen market.
So, on to NDB. The Pfeffel administration will push on regardless with this. It seems that for the sake of a few million quids worth of fish ( Most of which are species that UK diners eschew but are sought after by Europeans) the whole project will go Titanic. Unfortunately there is only room on the lifeboats for a few - step forward Mr.Rees Mogg and his ghastly tribe of mad lookalikes.
The fish are just an excuse, to make it sound like the government are backing our brave fishermen who contribute less than 0.5% of our GDP. No-deal Brexit is what the whole thing has always been about, if you look at Scummings’ financial backers.
I read, this morning, that Patel, Buckland and Truss are 3 cabinet ministers facing the sack, in an upcoming reshuffle.
Not because they are **** at their jobs, (which they are), but because they didn’t tweet their support for Dominic Scummings when he went awol.
Further proof, if needed, that Scummings is running the country?
Not because they are **** at their jobs, (which they are), but because they didn’t tweet their support for Dominic Scummings when he went awol.
Further proof, if needed, that Scummings is running the country?
Reference the unemployment figures, I have emailed the Shadow Secretary for Work and Pensions and suggested a way to create a swathe of jobs.
Push for the retirement age to be reduced, even temporarily, to the 65 it once was, but make it voluntary, because some might not be able to afford to give up a full time job.
I can’t be the only one who would jump at the opportunity to be paid my pension at the age it always was, until the bastards changed it a few years ago.
I don’t know how many people would fall into that age group, but however many, freeing up a job could be a lifesaver for a younger person with familial responsibilities.
I would hazard a guess that it might even save the country money, as it would get people out of the benefits system.
Especially as by wiping out in excess of 30,000 pensioners, the murdering bastards in the government have shaved around £4 million a week off the pension budget ......
Of course, unless you’re one of their crooked cabal and have millions stashed offshore, they’re not going to give a flying **** about you or unemployment.
I’m just waiting for the first government minister to use the term “collateral damage”
Why the hell aren’t the farmers, the fishermen, the relatives of those murdered in care homes by Cummings’ plan of herd immunity and pushing infectious people out of hospital with no testing up in arms and marching in the streets?
I’d like to see Number 10 covered in a large amount of slurry by angry farmers - remind Spaffer what a **** PM he is .....
The farmers have been revolting here.Especially as by wiping out in excess of 30,000 pensioners, the murdering bastards in the government have shaved around £4 million a week off the pension budget ......
Of course, unless you’re one of their crooked cabal and have millions stashed offshore, they’re not going to give a flying **** about you or unemployment.
I’m just waiting for the first government minister to use the term “collateral damage”
Why the hell aren’t the farmers, the fishermen, the relatives of those murdered in care homes by Cummings’ plan of herd immunity and pushing infectious people out of hospital with no testing up in arms and marching in the streets?
I’d like to see Number 10 covered in a large amount of slurry by angry farmers - remind Spaffer what a **** PM he is .....
https://nltimes.nl/2020/02/19/farmers-protesting-hague-today-tractors-ordered-stay-highways
It’s intriguing to see the pace of change that will happen around poor hapless Donald, whilst this is a drop in a vast ocean of change that is needed, Donny needs to realise that a lot of people have realised that he is powerless when the people turn.
As he was busy getting a fence installed around the White House, a few blocks away permission was given for roads to be renamed and BLM written in huge yellow letters.
A lot of people have realised the rest of Congress is complicit by their silence and have had enough.
As he was busy getting a fence installed around the White House, a few blocks away permission was given for roads to be renamed and BLM written in huge yellow letters.
A lot of people have realised the rest of Congress is complicit by their silence and have had enough.
I understand why redundancies will occur at a huge scale in the short term but find it difficult to appreciate that this should to continue in to the long term. There are elements of the economy which relate to large scale capital projects where I can see things slowing down. This is likely to be the case for construction and civil engineering even if though I can see this shifting between different sectors. Other elements of the economy will surely pick up once the restrictions are lifted and the current problem is largely that people do not have anywhere to spend money or a saving until the pandemic had ended. There will be a shift in how money will be spent and you can see there being a boom in the construction of distribution centres.
I have to say that the Non-deal Brexit worries me more economically. If the pandemic has shown anything, then there is a need to solidarity globally and those countries who pursue of "nationalist" agenda such as US, Brazil and UK fare worst. As I said previously, I think that the starting positions of both the EU and UK will change post-pandemic and I cannot envisage either pursuing the same trajectory. This will be even more the case if Boris is pushed aside which I am convinced is going to happen. He is starting to lose authority as has been demonstrated this last weekend with the BLM protects and the reluctance for schools to open. (The BLM scenario will escalate , especially as people not normally politically motivated will be getting involved through a combination of common decency and the frustration of being locked inside for three month.) The next "crisis" for the government will be focussed on regional disparities and I predict that what has happened in Liverpool and Manchester this weekend will start to take effect in other parts of the country too. Boris is already seen as part of the problem. Local politicians will be demanding answers to question as why there have been failings with care homes and hospitals in their regions and demanding government aid to the industries suffering and likely to shedding jobs in the short term.
A scientist from Public Health England made a statement in the paper yesterday about the fact that there is going to be a future enquiry where the last three months will be scrutinised. Given that the government appears to be failing on a different, serious issue each week, I think that this might be the final nail in the coffin for Boris. The same storm that has enveloped Trump will do the same for Boris.
I have to say that the Non-deal Brexit worries me more economically. If the pandemic has shown anything, then there is a need to solidarity globally and those countries who pursue of "nationalist" agenda such as US, Brazil and UK fare worst. As I said previously, I think that the starting positions of both the EU and UK will change post-pandemic and I cannot envisage either pursuing the same trajectory. This will be even more the case if Boris is pushed aside which I am convinced is going to happen. He is starting to lose authority as has been demonstrated this last weekend with the BLM protects and the reluctance for schools to open. (The BLM scenario will escalate , especially as people not normally politically motivated will be getting involved through a combination of common decency and the frustration of being locked inside for three month.) The next "crisis" for the government will be focussed on regional disparities and I predict that what has happened in Liverpool and Manchester this weekend will start to take effect in other parts of the country too. Boris is already seen as part of the problem. Local politicians will be demanding answers to question as why there have been failings with care homes and hospitals in their regions and demanding government aid to the industries suffering and likely to shedding jobs in the short term.
A scientist from Public Health England made a statement in the paper yesterday about the fact that there is going to be a future enquiry where the last three months will be scrutinised. Given that the government appears to be failing on a different, serious issue each week, I think that this might be the final nail in the coffin for Boris. The same storm that has enveloped Trump will do the same for Boris.
While I understand peoples annoyance at what happened in yankee land. I can't help feeling that mainly younger people in the uk are just using this as an excuse to have a go and ignore the governments rules on isolation. We moan about the government being late in its response yet thousands if not millions are ignoring government guidelines completely anyway!!?
This bit about Johnson.
I read yesterday that an unnamed, senior Tory MP had said that moves were being put in place for a leadership challenge to potentially take place next January.
This morning I read that Rishi Sunak and Jeremy Hunt we’re considering their position, should the above happen. Given the way the NHS was so unprepared for the pandemic, I would have thought that Hunt would be damaged goods, but the Tories have previous for choosing the worst of a very bad bunch, although I don’t think he is any worse than the likes of Gove, Patel and Rees Morgue.
Here's the odds Sunak favourite at 12/5, Gove and Raab on 9 then Hunt and Javid back at 16 Patel 20.
Edit: what a **** list of potential PMs.
Why young people? I think that there was a mixed demographic albeit with a majority of younger people. Perhaps it's because they are more desparate and see little future for themselves in the UK.
As much as I don't like admitting it, racism is alive and growing in the UK. It has coincided with the push for nationalism and the branding of the EU as rogues and religions as terrorists.
Led by that arch racist Farage!