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ChilcoSaint said:
What about the proven lie regarding his predicting the coronavirus? In my mind that shows that he doesn’t know the difference between lies and the truth. What about the fact that the “sight test” trip to Barnard Castle just happened to be on his wife’s birthday, which he didn’t see fit to mention in his press conference?
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Yes I think I said that the castle trip was in breach of the rules. I am agreeing with you?
 
St. Luigi Scrosoppi said:
A con too far. Johnson and Cummings conned the people into voting for Brexit. Johnson and Cummings conned the people into making Johnson PM and swollen with confidence and success they think they can con us into believing Cummings absolute load of bullshit, lies, half truths and distortions but this is a con too far.
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Stop it. The nation voted for Brexit because we wish to leave the EU. This was underlined at the last election with a stonking majority.
 
Paddy Podped said:
This frustrates me so much

These are people who are now willing to risk the health of everyone around them, and if someone gets ill as a result they will justify it to themselves and everyone else as it being Cummings' fault.


What DC did was wrong and he should face the consequences for it. But each individual who chooses to go out makes that decision themselves, and must take their own responsibility for it.
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Possibly. But how do you expect people who haven’t seen their friends and family for months, to act when the message from the government, already pretty garbled, now seems to be “the rules are open to any amount of interpretation”?

My 86 year old mum is in very poor health (though comfortable thank God), and I’m genuinely concerned she could fall asleep for good at any minute. I haven’t seen her since March, because I’ve been trying to do the right thing.,But every day I consider driving from a London to Southampton to see her, even though the rules say I’m not allowed in the house (though carers and nurses are. Thank god for carers and nurses).

I will continue to follow the dictates of my own conscience, and I’ll take advice off people I trust - including my mum’s GP. I won’t take any advice, direction or instruction at all from this morally bankrupt, unprincipled and clueless government. And they can stick their app up their arse, if it ever materialises.
 
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rednright said:
Stop it. The nation voted for Brexit because we wish to leave the EU. This was underlined at the last election with a stonking majority.
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You stop it. 42% of the 67% who voted, put their crosses against Brexit parties. Just wait until the reality of a no deal Brexit happens early next year, on top of the deepest recession since 1720. Let’s see how the Spaffer blusters his way out of that one.
 
rednright said:
Stop it. The nation voted for Brexit because we wish to leave the EU. This was underlined at the last election with a stonking majority.
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A stonking majority of voters who backed 2nd referendum or anti-Brexit parties you mean?

Don’t confuse the number of seats in the House of Commons with what people actually voted for, they aren’t the same thing.
 
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rednright said:
Stop it. The nation voted for Brexit because we wish to leave the EU. This was underlined at the last election with a stonking majority.
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The nation didn't vote for brexit a narrow majority of those that voted did. Look also at the GE results, the FPTP system distorted the result to give spaffer his huge majority. I don't believe there's any majority for a hard brexit on WTO terms which will compound the already worsening financial situation. It will be, as it always is, those that can least afford it will pay for the fundamental brexiteers fantasises. Never mind the "we the nation" it's far from that. Stop it!
 
I agree that the government have done well to financially support so many people and businesses, during the crisis, but paying the media to praise them......

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I agree that the government have done well to financially support so many people and businesses, during the crisis, but paying the media to praise them......

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Not that it seems to actually matter much these days, but aren’t there laws against this?
 
ChilcoSaint said:
You stop it. 42% of the 67% who voted, put their crosses against Brexit parties. Just wait until the reality of a no deal Brexit happens early next year, on top of the deepest recession since 1720. Let’s see how the Spaffer blusters his way out of that one.
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That's really the point. Assuming that we don't get overwhelmed by a second wave of infection, something that is my no means certain, then Pfeffel and co are going to have to deal with a super-recession. Then immediately on top of this a NoDeal Brexit will give an extra kicking, quite possible assisted ( and who could really blame them) by an intransigent EU who will see absolutely no need to come to the aid of an ex- member who has placed themselves in this parlous position.

I still think that there is an unwillingness to contemplate the seriousness of this for the economy. We are going to see long term mass employment with all that this means for the capability of those affected to play a full part in the economy. They are going to fall behind with rents and mortgages, fail to make repayments on car loans leading to repossessions. ( Cars which btw will fail to find buyers due to lack of finance) All this will set up an economic firestorm of mammoth proportions. If you want an idea of how this will end up read John Steinbecks Grapes of Wrath. We are about to create a 1930's economic theme park. Good luck Rishi!
 
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Farked19 said:
That's really the point. Assuming that we don't get overwhelmed by a second wave of infection, something that is my no means certain, then Pfeffel and co are going to have to deal with a super-recession. Then immediately on top of this a NoDeal Brexit will give an extra kicking, quite possible assisted ( and who could really blame them) by an intransigent EU who will see absolutely no need to come to the aid of an ex- member who has placed themselves in this parlous position.

I still think that there is an unwillingness to contemplate the seriousness of this for the economy. We are going to see long term mass employment with all that this means for the capability of those affected to play a full part in the economy. They are going to fall behind with rents and mortgages, fail to make repayments on car loans leading to repossessions. ( Cars which btw will fail to find buyers due to lack of finance) All this will set up an economic firestorm of mammoth proportions. If you want an idea of how this will end up read John Steinbecks Grapes of Wrath. We are about to create a 1930's economic theme park. Good luck Rishi!
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But it's okay, football's coming back.

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