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Farked19 said:
But it's arguable that Corbyn has led to a Tory government with an 80 seat majority. It was well within his powers had he unequivocally backed Remain in 2016 to swing enough votes to have changed that result. What we saw on Friday was a direct result of Corbyn's actions.
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It was the direct result of some:

People loving immigrants would get ****ted on.
People buying into lies
Tories being able to lie time and time again with nothing stopping them.

For some reason people in this country love Tories even though they are destroying it.

To blame Corbyn for everything isn't right
 
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Beef said:
It was the direct result of some:

People loving immigrants would get ****ted on.
People buying into lies
Tories being able to lie time and time again with nothing stopping them.

For some reason people in this country love Tories even though they are destroying it.

To blame Corbyn for everything isn't right
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One of my Spanish friends told me the UK was a conservative (with a small 'c') country many years ago and I didn't believe him, I guess now I realise it is true I have just been shielded from it by my international and liberal colleagues while living in cities.

The influence of the media is a big factor (most are right wing) and the rest is the fear of change and the lack of philosophy and critical thinking in our education and society. People would rather be conservative rather than fear change as it could effect their pension, house etc. Same is true with climate change - protect what you have short-termism.
 
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Beef said:
It was the direct result of some:

People loving immigrants would get ****ted on.
People buying into lies
Tories being able to lie time and time again with nothing stopping them.

For some reason people in this country love Tories even though they are destroying it.

To blame Corbyn for everything isn't right
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The point that I was making was specific in relation to Brexit. Had JC come out with an endorsement of Remain, strong and unequivocal, then the effect would have been to add at least 2% to the Remain share of the vote. I personally know at least four people who voted Leave because he gave a nod and a wink.
 
Farked19 said:
The point that I was making was specific in relation to Brexit. Had JC come out with an endorsement of Remain, strong and unequivocal, then the effect would have been to add at least 2% to the Remain share of the vote. I personally know at least four people who voted Leave because he gave a nod and a wink.
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You’re right, but blaming anyone other than the Tories for Brexit is missing the point by a million miles.
 
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Farked19 said:
The point that I was making was specific in relation to Brexit. Had JC come out with an endorsement of Remain, strong and unequivocal, then the effect would have been to add at least 2% to the Remain share of the vote. I personally know at least four people who voted Leave because he gave a nod and a wink.
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You know people who base their vote on a nod and a wink?

Winkers.
 
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Steve and his wife are both committed Corbynistas. We've not spoken since the election but I get they still will give him ten out of ten and they will back Becky for leader.
 
TheSecondStain said:
Although Triumph Motorcycles are doing fine.
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They are, though they're having some issues with their NA dealer network and parts availability for the older (newer) bikes...some really basic and essential bits for the late 90s/early aughts bikes seemingly just don't exist anymore.
 
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