If that were to happen he’d probably have to step down as PM and there would be another leadership election within the Tory party.
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If that were to happen he’d probably have to step down as PM and there would be another leadership election within the Tory party.
Posted on FB. Draw your own conclusions.
Damian Furniss
10/12/2019
I have a confession to make. I knew David Cameron at university and quite liked him. Sure, he displayed all of the limitations of his upbringing, but in our time doing the same subject in the same year and living on the same street he always seemed more interested in smoking cheroots and listening to prog rock than the Bullingdon boy antics he's now remembered for. Even when I sabotaged his college beagle pack he took it in good humour. I bet he's a bit of a stoner now, holed up in his shepherd's hut, giving The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway another spin.
I have different memories of Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson who was the first Oxford student I met when I was at Balliol College for interview in 1984. I was a rural working class kid with a stammer from a state school which hadn't prepared me for the experience, but I was bright and well read, with more interest in and knowledge of my subjects of Philosophy, Politics and Economics than most of my public school rivals could muster.
My session with the dons was scheduled for first thing after breakfast, meaning I was staying the night and had an evening to kill in the college bar Johnson was propping up with his coterie of acolytes whose only apparent role in life was to laugh at his jokes.
Three years older than me, and half way through the second class degree in Classics he coasted through with the diligence he later applied to journalism and red box briefings, you'd have expected him to play the ambassador role, welcoming an aspiring member of his college.
Instead, his piss-taking was brutal. In the course of the pint I felt obliged to finish he mocked my speech impediment, my accent, my school, my dress sense, my haircut, my background, my father's work as farm worker and garage proprietor, and my prospects in the scholarship interview I was there for. His only motivation was to amuse his posh boy mates.
In short, he demonstrated all of the character flaws that make him unfit to be our Prime Minister. Nothing I see today suggests he has changed. He's not Falstaff, he's Faust. If you are an ordinary working person and think he has your interests at heart, think again.
This one of the comments to Damian's original post. Again draw your own conclusions.
Dave Phoenix "That sounds like a genuinely unpleasant experience and I’m sorry you went through that. His opponent though, has celebrated the deaths of innocent people in the Brighton bombings, associated himself and supported known terrorists and sympathised with hate preachers who have been responsible for the deaths of jews and many others. Tbh, I’d take having the piss taken out of me, over the alternative, any day"
Damian Furniss
10/12/2019
I have a confession to make. I knew David Cameron at university and quite liked him. Sure, he displayed all of the limitations of his upbringing, but in our time doing the same subject in the same year and living on the same street he always seemed more interested in smoking cheroots and listening to prog rock than the Bullingdon boy antics he's now remembered for. Even when I sabotaged his college beagle pack he took it in good humour. I bet he's a bit of a stoner now, holed up in his shepherd's hut, giving The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway another spin.
I have different memories of Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson who was the first Oxford student I met when I was at Balliol College for interview in 1984. I was a rural working class kid with a stammer from a state school which hadn't prepared me for the experience, but I was bright and well read, with more interest in and knowledge of my subjects of Philosophy, Politics and Economics than most of my public school rivals could muster.
My session with the dons was scheduled for first thing after breakfast, meaning I was staying the night and had an evening to kill in the college bar Johnson was propping up with his coterie of acolytes whose only apparent role in life was to laugh at his jokes.
Three years older than me, and half way through the second class degree in Classics he coasted through with the diligence he later applied to journalism and red box briefings, you'd have expected him to play the ambassador role, welcoming an aspiring member of his college.
Instead, his piss-taking was brutal. In the course of the pint I felt obliged to finish he mocked my speech impediment, my accent, my school, my dress sense, my haircut, my background, my father's work as farm worker and garage proprietor, and my prospects in the scholarship interview I was there for. His only motivation was to amuse his posh boy mates.
In short, he demonstrated all of the character flaws that make him unfit to be our Prime Minister. Nothing I see today suggests he has changed. He's not Falstaff, he's Faust. If you are an ordinary working person and think he has your interests at heart, think again.
This one of the comments to Damian's original post. Again draw your own conclusions.
Dave Phoenix "That sounds like a genuinely unpleasant experience and I’m sorry you went through that. His opponent though, has celebrated the deaths of innocent people in the Brighton bombings, associated himself and supported known terrorists and sympathised with hate preachers who have been responsible for the deaths of jews and many others. Tbh, I’d take having the piss taken out of me, over the alternative, any day"
I’m liking the optimism in this thread. My polling station was busier than I’ve ever seen it, and traditionally a high turnout has always been good for Labour, so fingers crossed. I’m unapologetically Labour, and believe Jeremy Corbyn has more good points than bad, so I have no reservations about hoping that he’s our next PM.
Been out knocking on doors today in the rain too, and only heard one person say they were voting Tory. A few Labour voters have shifted to the LibDems, and this being North London, the anti Semitism thing has definitely been a factor. But a very nice Jewish lady told me she was livid with Luciana Berger for splitting the anti Boris vote by standing in a constituency Labour have every chance of taking from the Tories.
Been out knocking on doors today in the rain too, and only heard one person say they were voting Tory. A few Labour voters have shifted to the LibDems, and this being North London, the anti Semitism thing has definitely been a factor. But a very nice Jewish lady told me she was livid with Luciana Berger for splitting the anti Boris vote by standing in a constituency Labour have every chance of taking from the Tories.
No, I think it's accepted as being true. But in her defense it's a mistake that anyone could make. I mean, who among us can honestly say they have never gone out with two different shoes and one of them on the wrong foot?
I think we have all seen enough fake news and photoshop reworked images to know bullshit when we see it. If you think that image is genuine and it has influenced the way you have or will vote then its creator has done his or her work well. Never forget that 88% of Tory postings on Facebook have been lies and this is just another one.
I did not vote for Johnson. Why? Because I wanted him to treat me as a mature knowledgeable voter and for him to tell me how Brexit would pan out and how I as a pensioner was going to benefit. I also wanted him to tell me how we were going to reconcile the differences between a USA trade agreement and an EU agreement when he and I know they are incompatible. I wanted him to explain how we would maintain peace in Northern Ireland. He didn't inform me of anything but just repeated a pack of lies, slogans and then went into hiding to avoid scrutiny of what he was proposing. His campaign team knew he was a liability and so did the rest of us and we didn't need to produce fake photographs to show the man up for the incompetent buffoon he really is.
I love the genuine earnestness of your post. You've almost made me wish he was my sitting MP. The buffoon, that he is.
I have been following it for a few weeks and wishful thinking it may be, but it is not as unlikely as you think.
I am pretty sure his constituency were unhappy he hadn't bothered with his hustings and was taking them for granted?
Yep and it wouldn't take much of a swing of tactical voting to get him out - his seat is classed as 'at risk' and marginal. He won the last one by only 5,000 votes out of a total of 72,000 votes cast. This time the election is during term time too and I believe Brunel Uni is part of his constituency, this could work against him.
You know, sometimes I think you just have to accept that things don't always go the way you want them to. You can't keep denying things because you don't like them. Yes, a lot of facebook/twitter is made up but I haven't seen anywhere today where there was a claim of fake news on this even among Labour supporters.
But really, what does it matter true or false? It's never going to influence the outcome of general election in a million years. Embarrassing probably, but she's a politician for god's sake, she's probably endured worse than this (in fact I'm sure she has, that's why she's known as Diane Abacus). It's more embarrassing for her supporters most likely, she'll just brush it off I'm sure of that. Won't stop me having a pop though, if I see anymore I'll let you know.
At the last election, Boris swore to the people of Uxbridge, which is very close to Heathrow, that he would lie down front of the bulldozers to prevent a 3rd runway. What did he do when the issue was being voted on in Parliament - ran and hid. Which has subsequently become something of a pattern. So don't rule it out.