Off Topic Political Debate

That should be the closing comment for this thread.

 

I strongly doubt that

 

What I do find surprising is the choice of Grammar schools as her first "action". For someone who stood on the steps of Downing Street after her coronation as leader and said she effectively wanted her government to be less targeted at the privileged few she has chosen a weird way of showing it. Even if she naively believes that Grammar schools give working class children an edge she must have know it would be controversial. Why not as her first action some delay on a rich perk such as inheritance tax changes?

 

Because she's rich?

 

If so - and I doubt she is seriously wealthy yet - why start her role as PM setting herself up?

 

She may not expect to be in the job for long?

 

That would be even more strange. She is PM till the next election which is likely to be in 2020 - will Labour be ready to fight an election by then? She has every right to believe she is there for 9 years plus if she wants to be.

 

Who knows - if, as expected, she presses the Article 50 button in six months time and flounders in negotiations with EU, she may not last as long as 2020 - regardless of whether or not Labour are ready for a fight.

 

It's not only her, she knows she has to appease the right people to be allowed to stay in power.

If she tried to do anything to upset the wrong people the press would magically turn on her instantly.

 

Is it right that our politicians profit the way they do "post office"? Is Blair the worst example, I'm sure they've all been doing it Kinnock did pretty well but we don't hear much about Thatcher, Major or Brown in this matter, we hear of Alex Salmond exploiting his notoriety for cash as well, it just seems somehow wrong. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/21/tony-blair-business-rage-labour The speed Blair built is fortune after standing begs questions about whether political influence is bought in office by promises for position/wealth after office. Is our system as corrupt as third world countries, I believe so, after all they learnt from us in just about everything...

 

In terms of corruption, lack of morality, etc, I agree.
Agree also about Blair. Major, of course, made a lot of money after being PM, but I haven't heard anything nefarious being associated with that. Blair, of course, hasn't a moral bone in his body, and hasn't since he caught the smell of lucre, around the time of the very great John Smith's sad departure.

 

I said should.

It had a ring of Valéry's:
"Politics is the art of preventing people from taking part in affairs which properly concern them."

 

Similar too, to the fact that votes mean more to politicians than the values they espouse. See grammar schools' debacle.

 

See Bill Hicks:
I have this feeling man, 'cause you know, it's just a handful of people who run everything, you know … that's true, it's provable. It's not … I'm not a ****ing conspiracy nut, it's provable. A handful, a very small elite, run and own these corporations, which include the mainstream media. I have this feeling that whoever is elected president, like Clinton was, no matter what you promise on the campaign trail – blah, blah, blah – when you win, you go into this smoke-filled room with the twelve industrialist capitalist scum-****s who got you in there. And you're in this smoky room, and this little film screen comes down … and a big guy with a cigar goes, "Roll the film." And it's a shot of the Kennedy assassination from an angle you've never seen before … that looks suspiciously like it's from the grassy knoll. And then the screen goes up and the lights come up, and they go to the new president, "Any questions?" "Er, just what my agenda is." "First we bomb Baghdad." "You got it …"

Said before Bush bombed Baghdad.

 

I don't think we needed Mystic Meg to predict Bush would bomb Baghdad

 

It very quickly moves from this into the world of conspiracy theories, world orders etc...... <Yorkie gets his coat to join aberdeen, w_y, and others in the hills>

 

You got it.. you can'y beat the system but you can run from it. I was told many years ago how it really works from the backrooms in Davos..

 

I am with you Aberdeen... I googled 'the hills'......Now I know the human race will survive

PM me the co-ordinates

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Hicks was dead before Bush was president.

 

At least you didn't end up with Adam Hills, or Beverly Hills 90210.