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SIR ALEX FERGUSON believes Ally McCoist did a ‘fantastic’ job during his three-year spell as Rangers manager.
During his tenure, McCoist led the Light Blues to two successive titles in League Two and League One as the club continued to struggle with off-field problems. But McCoist's bid to lead Rangers to a third straight promotion faltered and after a number of poor performances and results, he left his position last December and was placed on gardening leave. With a new board in place and new manager Mark Warburton and assistant Davie Weir at the helm, Rangers have made an encouraging start to the new season, winning their first four games of the new campaign. But ex-Manchester United boss Ferguson has defended McCoist and insists the Light Blues legend’s time in charge shouldn’t be criticised.
Daft old ****'s delusional, maybe senility has kicked in.
During his tenure, McCoist led the Light Blues to two successive titles in League Two and League One as the club continued to struggle with off-field problems. But McCoist's bid to lead Rangers to a third straight promotion faltered and after a number of poor performances and results, he left his position last December and was placed on gardening leave. With a new board in place and new manager Mark Warburton and assistant Davie Weir at the helm, Rangers have made an encouraging start to the new season, winning their first four games of the new campaign. But ex-Manchester United boss Ferguson has defended McCoist and insists the Light Blues legend’s time in charge shouldn’t be criticised.
Daft old ****'s delusional, maybe senility has kicked in.
Slur Alex, auld purple nose, the wine-quaffing, raging, turbo alcoholic 
"...He wis undr shum preshure an furr alishtair tae cum oot of it wae hish dignity an hus legendry shtatus in tact wis a credit tae hum, tae walter, an tae the hole ranjurs shuport..."
"...He wis undr shum preshure an furr alishtair tae cum oot of it wae hish dignity an hus legendry shtatus in tact wis a credit tae hum, tae walter, an tae the hole ranjurs shuport..."
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It's all about the Rangers.
Without the Blue pound, Scottish football is ****ed.
Celtic can't even sell-out a game worth £20m yet after "filled-up Friday" at the 5 STAR STADIA vs St Midden 2 weeks ago, once again the loyal sons of John Knox are missing church on the sabbath to create SOLD OUT SUNDAY against the Edinburgh BHEASTS and yer man Stubbs will be getting it tight once again.
Alan Stubbs - elephant man,
Alan Stubbs - elephant man,
Without the Blue pound, Scottish football is ****ed.
Celtic can't even sell-out a game worth £20m yet after "filled-up Friday" at the 5 STAR STADIA vs St Midden 2 weeks ago, once again the loyal sons of John Knox are missing church on the sabbath to create SOLD OUT SUNDAY against the Edinburgh BHEASTS and yer man Stubbs will be getting it tight once again.
Alan Stubbs - elephant man,Alan Stubbs - elephant man,
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It's all about the Rangers.
Without the Blue pound, Scottish football is ****ed.
Celtic can't even sell-out a game worth £20m yet after "filled-up Friday" at the 5 STAR STADIA vs St Midden 2 weeks ago, once again the loyal sons of John Knox are missing church on the sabbath to create SOLD OUT SUNDAY against the Edinburgh BHEASTS and yer man Stubbs will be getting it tight once again.
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It's all about the Rangers.
Without the Blue pound, Scottish football is ****ed.
Celtic can't even sell-out a game worth £20m yet after "filled-up Friday" at the 5 STAR STADIA vs St Midden 2 weeks ago, once again the loyal sons of John Knox are missing church on the sabbath to create SOLD OUT SUNDAY against the Edinburgh BHEASTS and yer man Stubbs will be getting it tight once again.
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"Since I've been asked by both sides numerous times...Celtic have had the highest Attendance in Scotland for each of the last 17 Season's"
Random dude on twitter, but I believe him
"The Scott Allan saga is rumbling on and predictably, attempts are being made to make Rangers the villain of the piece. I have to say I initially felt sorry for Allan, thinking he was the unwitting pawn in a game of football politics by Hibs, Celtic and to a lesser extent, Rangers. I am now modifying my view. Frankly, though, it doesn’t matter if Scott Allan really wanted to play for his boyhood heroes or if this was all just a cynical ploy to engineer a move away from Hibs to Celtic. The fact is, he has put pen to paper and the ink is dry. He is now a Celtic player. In the crazy world of Scottish football, that doesn’t mean he will never play for Rangers but it does arguably make the prospect much more unlikely.
Reports that Rangers tried at the last minute to pry Allan away from a move to Celtic Park are probably true. If so, they indicate a willingness by the club to land the highly talented player and are a blow to those who claim that Rangers’ interest was just media hype. The truth is, that Rangers never had to go after the player in the first place and that, although him joining Rangers would have made the Ibrox side virtually unbeatable in this year’s race for the Championship title, his continued presence in the Hibs team would not have altered the outcome anyway.
Rangers’ loss is perhaps Celtic’s gain but Celtic fans are right to question the attitude of their own club in signing Allan. It looked like a cheap and/or desperate move to undermine their old rivals and Celtic supporters may not be happy that Celtic are looking to go on to the Champions League group stages but with a scared look over their shoulders at a team a division below them. And, of course, augmenting their squad by signing a Championship player. Expectation levels seem to be very low across the city these days…"
Rangers trying to gazump Celtic - Fine and Dandy
Celtic allegedly gazumping Rangers - Cheap/desperate attempt to undermine Rangers
And to top it all off, the "Celtic fans are right to question their club over the Allan signing" myth. Not a single Celtic fan I know or whose opinion I have read has questioned the signing.
As for Celtic looking over their shoulder at Rangers
Reports that Rangers tried at the last minute to pry Allan away from a move to Celtic Park are probably true. If so, they indicate a willingness by the club to land the highly talented player and are a blow to those who claim that Rangers’ interest was just media hype. The truth is, that Rangers never had to go after the player in the first place and that, although him joining Rangers would have made the Ibrox side virtually unbeatable in this year’s race for the Championship title, his continued presence in the Hibs team would not have altered the outcome anyway.
Rangers’ loss is perhaps Celtic’s gain but Celtic fans are right to question the attitude of their own club in signing Allan. It looked like a cheap and/or desperate move to undermine their old rivals and Celtic supporters may not be happy that Celtic are looking to go on to the Champions League group stages but with a scared look over their shoulders at a team a division below them. And, of course, augmenting their squad by signing a Championship player. Expectation levels seem to be very low across the city these days…"
Rangers trying to gazump Celtic - Fine and Dandy
Celtic allegedly gazumping Rangers - Cheap/desperate attempt to undermine Rangers
And to top it all off, the "Celtic fans are right to question their club over the Allan signing" myth. Not a single Celtic fan I know or whose opinion I have read has questioned the signing.
As for Celtic looking over their shoulder at Rangers
"The Scott Allan saga is rumbling on and predictably, attempts are being made to make Rangers the villain of the piece. I have to say I initially felt sorry for Allan, thinking he was the unwitting pawn in a game of football politics by Hibs, Celtic and to a lesser extent, Rangers. I am now modifying my view. Frankly, though, it doesn’t matter if Scott Allan really wanted to play for his boyhood heroes or if this was all just a cynical ploy to engineer a move away from Hibs to Celtic. The fact is, he has put pen to paper and the ink is dry. He is now a Celtic player. In the crazy world of Scottish football, that doesn’t mean he will never play for Rangers but it does arguably make the prospect much more unlikely.
Reports that Rangers tried at the last minute to pry Allan away from a move to Celtic Park are probably true. If so, they indicate a willingness by the club to land the highly talented player and are a blow to those who claim that Rangers’ interest was just media hype. The truth is, that Rangers never had to go after the player in the first place and that, although him joining Rangers would have made the Ibrox side virtually unbeatable in this year’s race for the Championship title, his continued presence in the Hibs team would not have altered the outcome anyway.
Rangers’ loss is perhaps Celtic’s gain but Celtic fans are right to question the attitude of their own club in signing Allan. It looked like a cheap and/or desperate move to undermine their old rivals and Celtic supporters may not be happy that Celtic are looking to go on to the Champions League group stages but with a scared look over their shoulders at a team a division below them. And, of course, augmenting their squad by signing a Championship player. Expectation levels seem to be very low across the city these days…"
Rangers trying to gazump Celtic - Fine and Dandy
Celtic allegedly gazumping Rangers - Cheap/desperate attempt to undermine Rangers
And to top it all off, the "Celtic fans are right to question their club over the Allan signing" myth. Not a single Celtic fan I know or whose opinion I have read has questioned the signing.
As for Celtic looking over their shoulder at Rangers
I'd question it if we spent any real money on him. If he doesn't work out Sevco can have him for free
£200k+ on a guy like that is a no brainer, even though we have plenty of attacking midfielders already he is a promising young talent who offers something different
The simple fact of the matter is Celtic had their eyes on him for ages and had an understanding with Hibs that they should be notified if and when Allan became available. As soon as he handed his transfer request in (thanks to Rangers fans [HASHTAG]#handitin[/HASHTAG]) Hibs let Celtic know - through Official channels - and the deal was done. Hibs never intended selling him to Rangers this season so he was never going to sign for them, thoughout the last few months Celtic just bided their time, they knew they had their man all along.
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Celtic could win fifty in a row but it means nothing in the grand scheme of things
BLOGGER Derek Keilloh thinks Hoops fans need to wake up and realise winning the Premiership title with their budget isn't worth crowing about.
Due to United being in the same division as Celtic, we might be deluded into thinking they are our rivals. They're not. We happen to share a country with them, but that's more or less all we have in common.
That was a reserve team we were up against, by and large. And they were still light years ahead of us. The gulf didn't seem to bother the Celtic fans, with their songs about winning ten in a row.
Try singing it to someone who cares.
These are the sort of people who in Roman times would have been in the Colosseum cheering on the lions.
It's the sort of mentality where your club can sign the three best players of another club, and then complain about a lack of competition. Trying to reconcile that in our heads would give most of us an aneurysm. Not John Collins, though. Possibly because an aneurysm requires ownership of a brain.
It doesn't stop their charmless manager doing his cringeworthy roar (twice!) after the game, even though it was about as much of a competitive exercise as killing a spider in your bath is.
Celebrating like that after beating a Scottish Premiership side seems like a clear case of punching down to me. The fact they don't see it as embarrassing says a lot, I think.
Games against Celtic, and Rangers when they were around, are very much things to be endured, like root canal treatment or brussel sprouts at Christmas.
It's hard to know during these games whether to hate them, or Dundee United, or myself, or football in general.
Either way, I do feel I need to cleanse my palate afterwards. By watching a nice film, for example. Or listening to one of my favourite albums. Or having a good wash, at the very least.
In a wider sense, football is no longer a sport. Not really.
Thanks to the erroneously named Champions League, and by television, the game has been corrupted and distorted by money. There was always a glass ceiling to a certain extent, but unless you find an oligarch from somewhere, you're not getting into this club.
The bigger clubs are not interested in competition. It's about making money to increase the gap on the poor domestic teams they like to duff up between European games.
The rich get richer, the gap gets bigger, and they like to convince us it's for our own good.
When the gap gets so big that a club the size of Juventus cannot hold on to Paul Pogba, what chance do we have?
The problem exists throughout Europe, to the extent that you'd need to put the mortgage on Bayern or PSG winning their respective leagues to win back enough to buy yourself a pint.
But back to Scotland. The Old Firm are trapped. Trapped in a country that doesn't engage, or even interest them. A league they are often in open contempt towards. Kidding themselves that beating teams with about 10% of their budget is any kind of achievement.
They are too big for the country they are in, in effect, due to the sheer gravitational pull of Glasgow within Scottish football, encouraged by outdated notions of political and religious identity most of the rest of us moved on from several decades ago.
The knowledge that so many buses depart towns up and down Scotland for Ibrox or Celtic Park every Saturday is unimaginably depressing.
They can't go down south, as England don't want them. Although Rangers did get to play league games in Berwick a couple of years ago, which I suppose is a start.
I do think a European league is an inevitability as the bigger European clubs will surely push for it over the next few years. The sooner they all leave and let the rest of us get on with it, the better.
Despite their desperate attempts to get out over the years, whenever the rest of us suggest we might be better off if they did go, they cry about how we couldn't possibly cope without them. Hoping that Stockholm Syndrome might kick in, I suppose.
We'd cope. Scottish football would find a level.
OK, that level might be slightly below the current standard, but if there was a drop off it probably won't be noticeable. And so what if it did?
Like I said, we'd find our level.
If we lost the Old Firm, we might struggle to hold onto our best players. Luckily, that doesn't happen now.
I don't know how I'd cope with having religious ditties sung at me for 90 minutes. Or without city centre pubs being turned into no go areas.
Or without having to look at Leigh Griffiths.
Or without having lunchtime kick offs, partly for TV and partly because their fans cannot be trusted to behave if the game kicks off any later than 3pm, like they are less evolved Gremlins. I might even be able to have a pint at the game, if I fancied it.
I bet our games against Dundee and Aberdeen would still sell out too. Besides, for all the talk of how the presence of the Old Firm boosts attendances, the Celtic game was actually Dundee United's lowest attendance so far this season. Funny how things turn out.
You never know. As the rest of us might actually have a shot at winning something, crowds might even go up.
But at the moment, we have a situation where the financial gap is so huge, than only one side can ever, or probably will ever, win the league. I don't know how that can be in any way satisfying for Celtic fans, apart from anything else. It doesn't mean anything. How can it?
You know what? Win ten in a row. Or twenty. Or fifty for all I care. No-one cares except you. It's utterly irrelevant.
Sorry.
BLOGGER Derek Keilloh thinks Hoops fans need to wake up and realise winning the Premiership title with their budget isn't worth crowing about.
- BLOGGER Derek Keilloh thinks Hoops fans need to wake up and realise winning the Premiership title with their budget isn't worth crowing about.
Due to United being in the same division as Celtic, we might be deluded into thinking they are our rivals. They're not. We happen to share a country with them, but that's more or less all we have in common.
That was a reserve team we were up against, by and large. And they were still light years ahead of us. The gulf didn't seem to bother the Celtic fans, with their songs about winning ten in a row.
Try singing it to someone who cares.
These are the sort of people who in Roman times would have been in the Colosseum cheering on the lions.
It's the sort of mentality where your club can sign the three best players of another club, and then complain about a lack of competition. Trying to reconcile that in our heads would give most of us an aneurysm. Not John Collins, though. Possibly because an aneurysm requires ownership of a brain.
It doesn't stop their charmless manager doing his cringeworthy roar (twice!) after the game, even though it was about as much of a competitive exercise as killing a spider in your bath is.
Celebrating like that after beating a Scottish Premiership side seems like a clear case of punching down to me. The fact they don't see it as embarrassing says a lot, I think.
Games against Celtic, and Rangers when they were around, are very much things to be endured, like root canal treatment or brussel sprouts at Christmas.
It's hard to know during these games whether to hate them, or Dundee United, or myself, or football in general.
Either way, I do feel I need to cleanse my palate afterwards. By watching a nice film, for example. Or listening to one of my favourite albums. Or having a good wash, at the very least.
In a wider sense, football is no longer a sport. Not really.
Thanks to the erroneously named Champions League, and by television, the game has been corrupted and distorted by money. There was always a glass ceiling to a certain extent, but unless you find an oligarch from somewhere, you're not getting into this club.
The bigger clubs are not interested in competition. It's about making money to increase the gap on the poor domestic teams they like to duff up between European games.
The rich get richer, the gap gets bigger, and they like to convince us it's for our own good.
When the gap gets so big that a club the size of Juventus cannot hold on to Paul Pogba, what chance do we have?
The problem exists throughout Europe, to the extent that you'd need to put the mortgage on Bayern or PSG winning their respective leagues to win back enough to buy yourself a pint.
But back to Scotland. The Old Firm are trapped. Trapped in a country that doesn't engage, or even interest them. A league they are often in open contempt towards. Kidding themselves that beating teams with about 10% of their budget is any kind of achievement.
They are too big for the country they are in, in effect, due to the sheer gravitational pull of Glasgow within Scottish football, encouraged by outdated notions of political and religious identity most of the rest of us moved on from several decades ago.
The knowledge that so many buses depart towns up and down Scotland for Ibrox or Celtic Park every Saturday is unimaginably depressing.
They can't go down south, as England don't want them. Although Rangers did get to play league games in Berwick a couple of years ago, which I suppose is a start.
I do think a European league is an inevitability as the bigger European clubs will surely push for it over the next few years. The sooner they all leave and let the rest of us get on with it, the better.
Despite their desperate attempts to get out over the years, whenever the rest of us suggest we might be better off if they did go, they cry about how we couldn't possibly cope without them. Hoping that Stockholm Syndrome might kick in, I suppose.
We'd cope. Scottish football would find a level.
OK, that level might be slightly below the current standard, but if there was a drop off it probably won't be noticeable. And so what if it did?
Like I said, we'd find our level.
If we lost the Old Firm, we might struggle to hold onto our best players. Luckily, that doesn't happen now.
I don't know how I'd cope with having religious ditties sung at me for 90 minutes. Or without city centre pubs being turned into no go areas.
Or without having to look at Leigh Griffiths.
Or without having lunchtime kick offs, partly for TV and partly because their fans cannot be trusted to behave if the game kicks off any later than 3pm, like they are less evolved Gremlins. I might even be able to have a pint at the game, if I fancied it.
I bet our games against Dundee and Aberdeen would still sell out too. Besides, for all the talk of how the presence of the Old Firm boosts attendances, the Celtic game was actually Dundee United's lowest attendance so far this season. Funny how things turn out.
You never know. As the rest of us might actually have a shot at winning something, crowds might even go up.
But at the moment, we have a situation where the financial gap is so huge, than only one side can ever, or probably will ever, win the league. I don't know how that can be in any way satisfying for Celtic fans, apart from anything else. It doesn't mean anything. How can it?
You know what? Win ten in a row. Or twenty. Or fifty for all I care. No-one cares except you. It's utterly irrelevant.
Sorry.
I can see where he's coming from. I just want to win 10IAR to bam up the huns.
I agree with this ****...
Celtic are too big for Scottish football but are minnows in Europe...
Big clubs **** small clubs and buy their best players ...
It will always happen unless leagues develop a system like the MLS
How ironic is it that the home of capitalism treats it's sports in an almost communist manner....to make it fair
Think he's pretty much spot on there, Celtic are in a ****e position really as what can they do to improve competition in Scotland and why would they??
If there were tens of millions of pounds in the game and Celtic got it all fair enough, but we get £2-3m from winning the league and being on tv every ten days which is **** all!
My English team is Birmingham, I used to have a season ticket until they got promoted 14 years ago to the EPL. I went a few games but the atmosphere was ****, we had players I never dreamed would play for us but I couldn't relate to them, they weren't Birmingham City players they were here for the epl.
And I think the EPL must donate fans to promoted sides as I'd never seen half the ****s before and they knew **** all about players from a few years before.
Celtic are as much a victim of modern football as Dundee United imo. Nobody has ever recognised winning the spl as a major honour outside of Scotland and that includes when rangers played in it. It doesn't rake in millions and millions and even if it did we couldn't spend it on players as nobody worth obscene amounts of money would come to play in Scotland. We don't even get a guaranteed place in Europe anymore, we have to win 2 games just to be guaranteed Europa football FFS!
If there were tens of millions of pounds in the game and Celtic got it all fair enough, but we get £2-3m from winning the league and being on tv every ten days which is **** all!
My English team is Birmingham, I used to have a season ticket until they got promoted 14 years ago to the EPL. I went a few games but the atmosphere was ****, we had players I never dreamed would play for us but I couldn't relate to them, they weren't Birmingham City players they were here for the epl.
And I think the EPL must donate fans to promoted sides as I'd never seen half the ****s before and they knew **** all about players from a few years before.
Celtic are as much a victim of modern football as Dundee United imo. Nobody has ever recognised winning the spl as a major honour outside of Scotland and that includes when rangers played in it. It doesn't rake in millions and millions and even if it did we couldn't spend it on players as nobody worth obscene amounts of money would come to play in Scotland. We don't even get a guaranteed place in Europe anymore, we have to win 2 games just to be guaranteed Europa football FFS!