Off Topic Pointless point-scoring thread

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Well, under the new ghost-in-the-machine rules you've recently established you literally can not ever die, as long as some **** calls themselves Rangers the spirit of the mythical Rangers 'club' entity can float over there and pick up where it left off

Ian Black has £2k on Deus Ex Machina to win Cheltenham...
 
Of course no one - other than those I actually know in the real world who I said it to at the time - believes that I said when murray floated a new share issue that nosedived, leading to him then borrowing more money via his company to then buy said shares they would be entering an unsustainable capital leverage scenario, more commonly referred to as being ****ed. What was funny at the time was watching traynor, young et al all lap up his financial wizardry without one question as to the reality of the situation.
Yup. And now they are not accepting any culpability for fuelling the situation by not calling it for exactly what it was.
 
Stop trying to suck up to the huns to get back on their forum, Jiffy :laugh:

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**** off, I was being serious for once. It's a joke, and it's been funny / is funny, but I have a certain level of sympathy for their fans. It's such a ****ed up scenario that it's hard, for me, to not agree with my good pals when they are genuinely gutted about what's happened. I drink with them, I play football with them, I socialize with them, so I sympathise with them too.

Anyway, I've ****ing tried to get back on the hun board. ML says he hasn't got the power <snap> and after AldoMongo's meltdown over the Clutha, I suspect I wont ever be allowed back on <ok>
 
I have some close friends that are Rangers fans. They're good guys, who love football, and have hated what's gone on. Most of them aren't in brilliant jobs or have extra cash to throw at the club. Other than actually going to games to show their support, they've had to stand by and for several years watch their club go down the drain.

In a way, it's the same for me: I don't get to many games due to work, living abroad, family commitments, life commitments like a house, whatever the ****. But once you're down to the bare bones of it and aren't mired in the politics, the schadenfreude, the backwards history of a lot of it, I support a team because 1) It's in my family, 2) I love Celtic, and 3) For the football.

So IF it had happened to Celtic, i'd have been devastated, and i'd have hoped that fellow fans, who are in it for the basic point of it all, the football, would have a level of empathy with me, but it's each to their own at the end of the day.

And Harry, shut up FFS, you take your weans to the boozer instead of school...but aye, they sung nasty songs so you must be right <doh>.


We were there. Those that stood up for Celtic were mostly just normal guys. I don't think Fergus was a fluke in the same way that Craig Whyte wasn't a fluke.

I am trying to divorce what I felt about Rangers with what actually happened there. The truth is, they let it happen. Including your decent mates. It is hard to blame them for that because they were conditioned for it. It is perhaps less easy to exonerate them when, despite everything that has gone on, they contribute to this charade.

I accept they are going to pretend it is the same club. That was a given. I just don't understand why they couldn't organise themselves to take control. Your mates, even now, have the power to wrest a bit of control by withholding custom. They won't do it. If they wanted to support their club, then funding its rape would seem like an odd choice.
 
So, what's happening with Rangers these days? I see headlines about shares and wage drops but can't be arsed reading them.

Any **** willing to give us a summary?
 
So, what's happening with Rangers these days? I see headlines about shares and wage drops but can't be arsed reading them.

Any **** willing to give us a summary?

Yesterday we learned the identity of the person who sold 2.2 million shares in Rangers International Football Club plc &#8211; Richard Hughes of Zeus Capital, one of Green&#8217;s chums right - when you&#8217;re in the door at 1p then there&#8217;s really no way you can lose.

The Rangers share price has tanked with a devastating speed.

The steaming mess that is Rangers&#8217; financial plight has now been dumped on to the desk of Graham Wallace - they sanctioned a first-team wage bill of £7.8m while in the Third Division

Operating loss of £14.3m including payments to Green of more than £930,000 with £825,000 going to Ally McCoist and more than £400,000 going to finance director Brian Stockbridge on top of that first team wage bill of £7.8m,

What makes Rangers so different that financial common sense has no place at Ibrox? No common sense?

It is estimated that Rangers are losing about £1m a month and that come April they will have just £1m in the bank.

Rangers have 56 full professionals or professional youth players on their books. According to Celtic&#8217;s website, they have now got 50, including their newest recruit Stefan Johansen.

Why are there so many? That&#8217;s one for McCoist.

Steve Simonsen &#8211; why? Emilson Cribari &#8211; why? Dean Shiels &#8211; why? David Templeton &#8211; why? Richard Foster &#8211; why? Steven Smith &#8211; why? Ian Black, on those wages, why?

This is the legacy of the club&#8217;s scattergun accumulation of players they didn&#8217;t particularly need to meet the challenge they were faced with. Namely, the Third Division last season and League 1 this season.

Bring on the cost-cutting to stave off disaster
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We were there. Those that stood up for Celtic were mostly just normal guys. I don't think Fergus was a fluke in the same way that Craig Whyte wasn't a fluke.

I am trying to divorce what I felt about Rangers with what actually happened there. The truth is, they let it happen. Including your decent mates. It is hard to blame them for that because they were conditioned for it. It is perhaps less easy to exonerate them when, despite everything that has gone on, they contribute to this charade.

I accept they are going to pretend it is the same club. That was a given. I just don't understand why they couldn't organise themselves to take control. Your mates, even now, have the power to wrest a bit of control by withholding custom. They won't do it. If they wanted to support their club, then funding its rape would seem like an odd choice.

Rebs, i'm not debating with you over whether or not having sympathy for any/some/all Buns is right or not, but putting a bunch of Celtic fans, that you don't know, on a pedestal whilst denigrating my friends, who you also don't know, is a little bit stupid.

What's happened isn't a like-for-like situation anyway - each case on its own merits etc. I'm sure there were some buns, somewhere, who really did try their utmost, but it wasn't to be.

In summary, I have sympathy for some fans, mainly those that are my friends, and you don't <ok>
 
Cheers Pud.

Hopefully the laughs will keep coming. Soon be time for Ally to go greeting to the press about no being able to sign any new players just like his master used to do (despite spending £30m+ in three years).
 
He's a clever one McCoist http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2528679/Ally-McCoist-dark-Rangers-player-cuts.html

McCoist has long since become accustomed to the chaotic nature of life at Ibrox. Not too long ago, he was promised a £10m transfer &#8216;war chest&#8217; by former chief executive Charles Green. Now he admits to harbouring concerns about the prospect of job losses at Ibrox and Murray Park.
&#8216;I have to be honest, I was never sure I was going to get that £10m in January,&#8217; he said.
&#8216;Call me an old cynic but there was a nagging doubt that I might not see that.


A nagging doubt ya lunatic? <laugh>