Play Offs

[yorkshirehornet]

Great news

hang on.... .still a lot of time to go??

 

[Proud Fox]

Well we only have room for 2k or so TBF without upsetting season ticket holders..

We always give 3250 tickets which is 10% of the stadium. We cant give anymore without putting your in the home end of having fans mix inside the stadium. We only ever do that when we have to for FA Cup games where you have to give 15% of the stadium. But its a right headache

I still think its been handled by both clubs badly. We sort of gave up on play offs after you beat us and everything our end seems rushed

 

[babyhornetdan]

Well we only have room for 2k or so TBF without upsetting season ticket holders..

Exactly this. I sit in the Vicarage road end, next to the away fans and would be mightly pissed off if I were forced to move seats. Why should I have to sit in a worse seat when I have been to every home game this season? When we get our new stand things will be looked at and the situation re-evaluated.

 

[wear_yellow]

You have only given us 2000 tickets and vice versa

Pretty poor from both clubs

You lot wouldnt let us discount tickets for STH's though which is bad. Both teams have handled tickets pretty poorly by the sounds of things

I do not recall receiving any discount for being a STH holder the other week at your place either....

 

[Markthehorn]

We always give 3250 tickets which is 10% of the stadium. We cant give anymore without putting your in the home end of having fans mix inside the stadium. We only ever do that when we have to for FA Cup games where you have to give 15% of the stadium. But its a right headache

I still think its been handled by both clubs badly. We sort of gave up on play offs after you beat us and everything our end seems rushed

Yes - the timing isn't great but that's Sky and the money men for you...

 

[Proud Fox]

I do not recall receiving any discount for being a STH holder the other week at your place either....

But thats an away game for you

As a home fan who has seen all 26 of our games at the King Power Stadium in league and cup and paid for a season ticket. Surely I should get some discount to the home leg of the play offs

Just like you should for your home game over the "fans" who only ever turn up when things are going well

 

[MarkoLUFC]

The high foot, the elbow, any of the challenges made by your own players that were worse have been glossed over. If they've been mentioned, it's been fleetingly. If Poleon deserved a red for a push that is not typically dangerous that unfortunately caused an injury, then any of those other challenges definitely deserved a red and we'd have been 10 leeds players vs 7 watford players or something like that.

The most irritating thing about this whole situation is the "we were robbed" attitude of your fans, demonising Poleon for costing you a shot at the big time when in reality your team were very lucky to finish the game with 10 men and your own side bottled it.

Putting your foot high when you can see a player going for a header, that's serious foul play. His foot clattered into Varney's head, nothing given, yet I don't see your fans whining about your own player putting himself in that dangerous position, it still all comes back to "Poleon should have been off and we should have had an easy time". At least with Poleon a lack of intention lets him off the hook, a high foot is against the rules, the player knows it is against the rules, and going in for a challenge like that when you can clearly see the player - it was intentional. He intended to get the ball through a dangerous challenge, it's serious foul play and it's a red card offence.

There were several of these incidents in the game, all of them accountable to Watford players, and the excuse for every one of them is "it was an accident". A high foot into somebody's face is not an accident, just keep your sodding foot down. A high foot is always dangerous, a push in the back is rarely dangerous. That is how you determine if a challenge is dangerous play. Is it dangerous in normal circumstances?

Your post relieves Cassetti of any responsibility for that high challenge which was, by the law of the game, serious foul play, and then implies again that Poleon made a "malicious" challenge, a challenge that is rarely dangerous and by the laws of the game cannot be considered serious foul play. As many have said, he'd have had to have had snooker player like precious to be able to maliciously intend to take both players out. The intent was clearly to simply put Anya on his arse and give himself a better chance of getting the ball, and it goes no further than that. It's not surprising that none of us Leeds fans have any respect for your opinion on this matter when in the same post you acquit a player who made a dangerous high challenge (that could have easily seriously injured Luke Varney) of any responsibility, then demonise a young player for a nudge that resulted in an injury that only clairvoyants and Dr Who could know about. It's double standards. Ignore the outcome and you see Cassetti's challenge is dangerous and predictably dangerous, Poleon's is not. Red card for Cassetti, free kick and a slap on the wrist for Poleon. Those are the rules of the game, and that is how the rules should remain.

A high foot that is going to endanger someone is a foul, which you have correctly mentioned. The part I have highlighted contradicts that as if it was just a high foot (without an additional caveat that seems to be the implication), there'd be no goals scored with overhead kicks. I could take it to the nth degree and refer to other aspects of the game, but that's for the IFAB to decide.

Shame that's irrelevant as in this context the players foot went flying into the side of varneys head.

 

[wear_yellow]

But thats an away game for you

As a home fan who has seen all 26 of our games at the King Power Stadium in league and cup and paid for a season ticket. Surely I should get some discount to the home leg of the play offs

Just like you should for your home game over the "fans" who only ever turn up when things are going well

Sorry, I did not quite understand what you meant...yeah, it would have been good to get a bit of discount as a STH. I have had to shell out £86 for our tickets for both games.

 

[Jack Lesterfan]

Hi guys,

Just popped on your board to see what was going on! See you have two playoff threads, didn't want to ruin your other one so thought I would jump on this one. I haven't read any of the previous 11 pages, so apologies if I'm just repeating what's already been said

Unlucky on missing out on automatic, thought you were going to sneak it when the Hull game finished 2-2.

Will be a very interesting two games against you guys. You have already done the double over us this season, and you played very well against us at the KP recently.

How confident are you going in to the playoffs? I can't even see us getting past you guys to be honest, but this is football so you never know.

How long are your keepers out for?

And what do you have against Palace, or is it just their location!?

 

[Leo]

Hi Lesterfan - good to have you posting on our board - the other thread is probably the right one to use now as this got taken over by a slanging match which ruined the idea of talking play offs

 

[Craigo]

A high foot can get you a red, and I admit Cassetti did have a high foot in that match, but it wasn't intentional. but the point is that maliciously dangerous play should be punished severely. What woud've happened if he got hit somewhere else, like the throat, and then he could've died.

There was an interesting interview with Howard Webb on Radio 5 when Nani was sent off for Man U in the Champs League.

Webb said that the only foul where 'intent' is now considered at all is hand ball.
The presenter pressed the point and asked whether an over-head bicycle kick would be deemed a foul if the player scored but accidentally caught an opposing player and Webb replied that it would be a foul and any player who raised his foot in a situation where contact could be made risked being penalised or sent off.

 

[Bolton's Boots]

How confident are you going in to the playoffs? I can't even see us getting past you guys to be honest, but this is football so you never know.

How long are your keepers out for?

And what do you have against Palace, or is it just their location!?

Personally I'm not at all confident - but I was really confident that we would beat Leeds so am perhaps applying a bit of reverse psychology. I guess that what really matters is how confident Zola is that he lift the players - and he has done it before.....

Re the keeper situation, Zola has mentioned that he thinks both Almunia & Bond will be available for Thursday. With the benefit of hindsight, I feel that he may be regretting having not played Almunia on Saturday, but then he wasn't to know what would would happen. I'm more worried about the loss of Deeney for Thursday, and that he has highlighted to other clubs how to deal with him. Leeds subjected him to non-stop niggling treatment on Saturday, both on and off the ball, and he was given no protection at all by the ref, who rarely acknowledged what was going on by blowing his whistle. He has to learn by the second leg to simply shut up and stop complaining - not easy when you are being so obviously targeted though.

There was an interesting interview with Howard Webb on Radio 5 when Nani was sent off for Man U in the Champs League.

Webb said that the only foul where 'intent' is now considered at all is hand ball.

It is a problem for referees - quite how they are supposed to deem intent when they don't have access to players' brains is hard to fathom. With handball, yes it is possible to adjudge that an arm/hand moving towards a struck ball can be intentional - but that doesn't mean that an arm/hand deliberately placed in the anticipated trajectory of the ball is not intentional, which is very often how it is viewed by referees.

I'd say that Saturday's incident with Poleon and Anya was very easy to classify as deliberate - and would argue that a red card was appropriate as it constituted serious foul play. Poleon himself has admitted, to Bond, that he pushed Anya into him simply to see what might happen that he could take advantage of. At the speed they were moving at, he could hardly have not realised that one or the other - or even both - would have been injured. That is an area of the game's laws that needs to be looked at - they currently apparently view an offence such as Poleon's in the same light as a player taking his shirt off to celebrate a goal - totally ludicrous IMO.

 

[Lloydinio]

It's not surprising that none of us Leeds fans have any respect for your opinion on this matter when in the same post you acquit a player who made a dangerous high challenge (that could have easily seriously injured Luke Varney) of any responsibility, then demonise a young player for a nudge that resulted in an injury that only clairvoyants and Dr Who could know about.

Actually it's just The Doctor.

 

[Norwayhornet]

It's not deliberate, he was shoulder to shoulder with a player and he pushed him as any player would. I'll say it again, as the commentators said, every striker has made a push like that and they don't think about the consequences, they are just trying to win the battle for the ball. It's just unfortunate that on this occasion an injury has occurred.

No matter how you spin it, you lost because your team is **** and you've got an ex con in your squad who can't be relied upon to stay on the pitch because of his own stupidity.

No point blaming a young player who's just come out of the academy for making a mistake that resulted in an accidental injury.

6-1 do you remember 6-1 3-0 do you remember 3-0

 

[MarkoLUFC]

6-1 do you remember 6-1 3-0 do you remember 3-0

For all the petty bitterness and the complaining and the "Poleon should be shot at dawn" reactions:


BOND IS ON THE BENCH!

You lot are pathetic

 

[MIAMI_FOX]

For all the petty bitterness and the complaining and the "Poleon should be shot at dawn" reactions:


BOND IS ON THE BENCH!

You lot are pathetic

and Leeds are ****e!

 

[MarkoLUFC]

and Leeds are ****e!

Spent a fraction of what Leicester have and still took 4 points off you.

 

[MarkoLUFC]

and Leeds are ****e!

Spent a fraction of what Leicester have and still took 4 points off you.

 

[glynnak]

are you under a transfer embargo?
if so who will play for you next season when your loanees go back?

 

[Leo]

are you under a transfer embargo?
if so who will play for you next season when your loanees go back?

No - we are not under a transfer embargo - we can do transfers but must get them approved by the FL before they are signed