Match Day Thread PL: Liverpool v West Ham United

i'd take the 80million personally

they way guys are going he'll be the world record for a left full back by then.....

 

No Henderson?

 

I'd keep Can in and let him recover properly.

 

It would be uncouth of us to lose him.

 

I'd happy sell for 75 Mil. ...

 

Went well last time we did that...

 

Or even 'uncuth'

 

indeed... highly profitable.

lets move on though.... i just want to say (secretly coutinho aint that good unless you use him right) we seem to have a very high opinion of coutinho that is not necessary reflective of the players true level.

He can score a great shot but he's not at silva's level yet. lets not make him out to be all that and a bag of chips until he actually delivers consistently.

 

Where would you put him on your scale of averageness?

 

I'd put in in the good category... maybe very good but not top 4 player yet.

It was only last season that he finally after 3 months of it started playing 90mins... before that he was playing 60mins or worse not playing (but then SAS were up front)

He's still young but people make him out to be a worldie. the evidence suggests rodgers throws him all over the pitch wondering where is best (like sterling) and like sterling his best position will be left forward and his trademark is cutting infield using his quick feet.

The boy is not a 10. peoepl talk of vision and this and that but his passing is not all that. its not bad but its nowhere near where poepel put it today... yet.

In short.. the boy should be played in the one slot and allowed to use his best attributes which are quick feet and a bit of a football brain that allows him to press quickly which is after all what we want. play him deeper and you lose his goal threat and don't again that much as he can slow the game down.

In 5 years tie sure he might be like silva is today for city but that guy is 29 and grew into it. lets just be sane and say he's good but not quite the finished article.

 

simple scale:

world class
CL standard (or top 4 if you will)
Very good
good
average
journeyman
mediocre


not hard is it?

we have no world class players
CL standard? its disputable right now
Very good players? We prob have a coupel and some who are getting there or proving themselves actively
good? prob have quite a few
Joe allen is average.
Bogdan is a journey man

IMo LFc have bought pretty well this summer and the likes of clyne, benteke, firmino and even gomez will prove themselves very good players. Milner has already proved himself this for years. Has henderson? probably given his england career

All in all i feel we grossly exaggerate the quality of a lot of our players and on the other hand bash the hell out of others (skertl and lovern for example) the truth is somewhere in the middle.


Coutinho has proved himself an exciting talent and one to watch but he's got a bit to go to be a real big player.

 

CL standard = Coutinho
VG = benteke, Sturrdge, Firmino
G = Clyne, Gomez, Milner and many others

 

Aren't mediocre and average the same thing?

 

Dont spoil his fun, he feels smart.

 

Lallana is world class.

 

you my good fellow are drunk.

 

no

 

don't go to far now.

 

maybe....

coutinho IMO might not be. but he's the only one i think today some our our direct rivals would poach... ok so utd would love benteke secretly now.

I reckon that sturrdige needs to reprove himself and firmnino has to adapt but as a brazil international he has to be rated


we've lots of good solid players, why have people an issue if they are not all worldies just cos they wear red...

 

Yeah well done. Clearly they are, they both mean middle of the range. You're system is ****ed on basic English lol