Started my working life in that building, so happy memories for me. It's a crying shame to see it now in this dilapidated state.
You see your missing the point again, which is, this council and all the tossers who have a say in building in Hull are backwards when it comes to encouraging redevelopment. There are many examples in Hulls past about lack of ambition. You already posted about the Abercrombie plan it got stopped by a few businesses and shop keepers, why didn't the council tell them to **** off? Abercrombie went to Coventry and redeveloped that instead, I've never heard Coventry get the piss took out of it like Hull has, it has very good employment and industry. In the Early 60's Ford were looking to build a car plant on Hedon Road, it was thwarted by Hull businesses **** scared that all their low paid workers would leave to work for Ford who paid good money, it went to Halewood instead. My brother in law met a rep from Adidas at a trade fair in Frankfurt a few years ago who told him that in the late 80's Adidas were looking to build a clothing factory in Hull because at that time Hull had quite a few clothes making factories, one of their bosses came to Hull to meet with the council and no one turned up to talk to him. You are very naive if you think local politicians are above corruption, I worked in one very ( still ) high profile councillors house helping to fit a very expensive kitchen in his self build home thinking how the **** can he afford this on his money.
I never said they were above corruption. I said one Councillor couldn't get a large scale planning application through and the planners never sat on your mates application.
It's things like this that make me take the Allams side over HCC. No wonder they are sick of dealing with them.
You know that for certain do you? Why didn't it get a refusal then? I will tell you how they sit on them, by keep asking for amendments to minor points, like colour of bricks, size of bricks, will the windows have a 40 or 50mm profile? And on and on and on, until the applicant get so pissed off they have to spend thousands redrawing plans or walk away that's how. And that's why the Lord Line building and its surroundings are derelict and not a hotel and a place people want to go to, so go back to your council mates and tell them that, and stop sticking up for the Brady Bunch and the dinosaurs that have held back this great City for years.
Looking at the derelict farm buildings, ER need to look at preserving their historic buildings better than they do.
If he put an application in, you can view it on the link. http://www.hullcc.gov.uk/portal/page?_pageid=221,98741&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL If it's not there, he never put one in and any delay was elsewhere. The Lord Line buildling is like it is because the private company that own it have done sod all with it.
It used to be a brown envelope job, but that all went sometime ago. Now everyone has to watch their backs. It is not that there are no corrupt council planning officers, it's just hard finding one to corrupt in the first place. We live in a more open and accessible society now and I heard that the car plant could not be built in Hull, not because of the council, but because of the water supply or table.
Good website but it only goes back to 1995 and you have to write in for further information, and I think it was before that, and I agree about the current owners they have a habit of sitting on properties waiting for someone to buy it off them, Rank Mill the latest
Good excuse till you think it's a few hundred yards from a massive river, BP used to draw water from the Humber, and it's not bothering Siemans is it? I know it sounds racist but the businesses run by the Jewish in Hull were given as the reason for refusal, the Ford plant would have upped they rates and affected their staff leaving so they would have had to improve their pay, and what business wants to do that.
They said that about that mill in Newcastle and it's an Art space now, you can turn any eyesore into something good
But who's ultimately responsible for decisions??? Is it the council ? The planners ? Or a case of back scratching ?
I understand that Manor Properties had some people down at the Lord Line yesterday, it seems they're doing some works to stop the place deteriorating as they're in danger of not getting their planning application extended and they risk the council doing works and billing them for it under an enforcement order. Apparently they couldn't do a lot yesterday, as they couldn't get the water on, which is a bit ironic for a building on an old dock next to an estuary. They're not the only ones risking an enforcement order... Council considers enforcement action over Allam-owned Rosedowns factory site please log in to view this image Enforcement action could be taken over the condition of a former factory site owned by Assem Allam. Twelve months ago, the Hull City owner withdrew an appeal against a decision by councillors to refuse planning permission to redevelop the former Rosedowns factory complex in Caroline Street near the city centre. He wanted approval to convert the building into 26 apartments and to build 78 new homes on nearby land between Cannon Street and Bridlington Avenue. But councillors rejected the scheme, claiming new housing would be inappropriate in a mainly industrial area. http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Coun...tory-26540719-detail/story.html#ixzz3amVTrbOg
As much of a nob as Allam can be - you can see why he doesn't want to deal with the local council - they gave planning permission to convert an old warehouse into apartments.... 500 yards (if that) from the Rosedowns site. http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Deve...ansformation/story-23098019-detail/story.html
The conversion of the Rosedowns building wasn't the issue. The housing was on a seperate site associated with the same application. The HDM article's have been misleading.
You'd think the 26 apartments in the existing building would be big enough to justify going ahead with the development, obviously it would be much smaller than they planned and would be far less profitable, but you'd still think it was viable.
At least it looks like one empty building is being brought back into use, they've just started work on The Eagle... please log in to view this image