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Petition: Stop the unwanted rebranding of Hull City AFC

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Quill, Aug 9, 2013.

  1. ellewoods

    ellewoods Well-Known Member

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    If you want people to sign it in volume you should set up a couple tables outside the KC with laptops on wi-fi. Without a proper mailing list you are never going to get large volumes of people to sign a petition and even then you are not going to get a large percentage of your mailing list to sign it. Simple organizing tactics and you will get a **** ton of people to sign it. You can even do petitions on cell phones outside places where lots of people go, malls, shopping centers, business districts, outside pubs on game day. Its fairly simple to get large volumes of people to sign petitions. I have gotten hundreds and hundreds maybe thousands in my day and I am the least people person you could ever meet. I mean 4,000 and sum is really a sorry number when you think the number of people in the area, the number who go to games and the constant stream of away fans that also come every week.

    Dont take that as a negative paragraph, its just that you can do better. There has to be a city fan in the area who is experienced in organizing. I mean, id come help out but I am a long ways away.
     
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  2. Boothferry2Wembley

    Boothferry2Wembley Well-Known Member

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    The campaign group has invested good money in raising awareness. There needs to be some tangible proof the investment is worth it. As someone has already pointed out, the total on this poll is quite poor (20% of a home gate) It would be a shame if people put in their money and all it did was make the owners case for him. Still not to worry, there will soon be a big flag, £500 quids worth. Let's see if that can help build momentum.
     
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  3. The Omega Man

    The Omega Man Well-Known Member

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    Personally I don't think a petion is a credible means of stopping the name change, too much effort for too little message.
    I humbly suggest that proper market research techniques should be used. The reason is that Assam Allam is not trying to attract investment based on our home support, he is looking at the wider audience. Unless you can demonstrate that the name change will not increase the clubs chances of investment, it will go ahead, it's that simple. The message and the evidence has to be clear, it is not worth changing the name.
    Now I know that Bianca, will come out with her usual remarks, but that only hides her arrogant view that she is right and no one else can have a valid input.
     
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  4. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
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    There will be many facets to the campaign, convincing Assem is just one of them, he can't change the club name without it being accepted by the Premier League or Football League and we'll be campaigning on all fronts.

    People also forget that the campaign has only been going a few weeks, this is a marathon, not a sprint. A formal membership will be launched shortly, then we'll ramp up the efforts to get people signed up, increasing the campaign membership will be far more effective than the petition. We also still have to keep pushing the message that this campaign is anti-name change, not anti-Allam, as many still seem to see it that way, there's also a surprising amount of people who simply think it will go away and we'll never drop City from our name.
     
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  5. Boothferry2Wembley

    Boothferry2Wembley Well-Known Member

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    Very good, did you think of that all by yourself or did your dad ring you and suggest it.

    PS, trying using I'll get my coat at the end of your comedic posts.
     
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  6. The Omega Man

    The Omega Man Well-Known Member

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    Seeing that I like several others made no secret on here that my Dad passed away last year, I find your attempt at humour not only misplaced but beneath contempt.

    You have a choice, apologise now and I will accept it was an error or wait until I ask you to do so to your face.
     
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  7. The Omega Man

    The Omega Man Well-Known Member

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    As you say, increasing the membership, builds credibility and strengthens the group message. I totally agree that a multi facetted approach is fundamental. I was only referring to the case that is put to Assem Allam.
    In one of the replies to a reporters questions, Harvard was mentioned, in the context that a shorter business name was better. This to me waves a flag, challenge that with a real evidence, destroy the assumption that has been made.
    I understand its early days, but the subject is open for debate isn't it?
     
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  8. PattyNchips2

    PattyNchips2 Well-Known Member

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    OK OLM I have been monitoring your posts and you have convinced me that changing name is a bad idea after all.
    I did initially think that it was conservative old people that were afraid of change, now I see that AA may actually be a wolf in sheep's clothing.
    I didn't realize that what he did for City was loan us the money, and want interest.. like a business man.
     
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  9. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
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    It certainly is and points raised on here will be raised at the committee meetings, as that's the point of us having a representative on the group.

    I think the biggest issue we'll have at the meeting, should it actually go ahead, is getting Assem to listen at all, whatever evidence is thrown his way.
     
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  10. PattyNchips2

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    he will hear, but he won't listen, I can guarantee that - he is a business man.
     
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    I'm hearing that the planned meeting between the campaign group and Assem will actually be a bigger meeting with several groups represented, a bit like another FLAG meeting.
     
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    Personally, I think we should invade Algeria in a false flag operation and lay the blame at the old ****'s feet. Then he'd be forced to sell :)
     
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  13. Hank Scorpio

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    How is Hull Tigers shorter than Hull City?
     
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  14. The Omega Man

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    I'm not saying it is, but AA is. Perhaps what he means is that Hull City Association Football Club is too long. But that isn't what he actually says.
    There are good examples of shortened names working, but there are better examples of historic names being more attractive to investors as well as name changes that failed. Consigna instead of The Royal Mail is a prime example.
     
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  15. Boothferry2Wembley

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    Still no apology eh.
     
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  17. Boothferry2Wembley

    Boothferry2Wembley Well-Known Member

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  18. The Omega Man

    The Omega Man Well-Known Member

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    Ok have it your way, see you soon.
     
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  19. Boothferry2Wembley

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    BSM, the thread was re-ignited because of a remark that I made on here a few days ago. Bigotry to Wumery is upset because he thinks that I have double standards and so he is trying to prove a point.
    The fact is that he/she is offended by the comment that insinuates that he/she has incest with his Mother, he is so offended by my post that he/she has had to show her it, so that she too is now offended. If only I could met them both to explain that I was only calling Bigotry to Wumery a Mother ****er, and that is considered on par to calling someone a Bastard. I perhaps should have just called him/her a vagina. Maybe in your role as the Bull**** Man you could give me some advice, should I really post what I genuinely believe to be true or just post bull**** as normal?
     
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  20. The Omega Man

    The Omega Man Well-Known Member

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    Fine. If you want an apology from me for that, you have one. You know the context that it was made and there is no way that my post was intended to be actually offensive to your Mother, you could have PMed me and I would have acted in the appropriate manner. If you showed my post like you stated to your Mother, well that's up to you.
    But to point score knowing that my Father died last year is not offensive it is beyond that.
     
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