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Permanent deal agreed for Evans(according to the Mail)

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by originallambrettaman, Apr 1, 2011.

  1. Carmine Galante.

    Carmine Galante. Well-Known Member

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    Doesn't give up does he ?

    Apart from Bullard is there any player you actually like ?

    Prize clown.
     
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  2. originallambrettaman

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    They also thought Chester and Stewart weren't good enough, along with Shawcross, Eagles, Ebanks-Blake, Greening, Guthrie, Healy, Higginbotham and a whole stack of other players who could probably do a job for us.

    Even Gerard Piqué was flogged after only 12 games for United and I think he's just about making a name for himself in the game.
     
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  3. Carmine Galante.

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    Peter Beardsley,David Platt,Robbie Savage and even the likes of Tim Howard and Diego Forlan weren't considered good enough for Man Utd.I'm not saying Evans will be in the same bracket as those mentioned but give the lad a chance for crying out loud .
     
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  4. Carmine Galante.

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    The give the lad a chance bit was obviously aimed at TWF and not OLM.

    <diva>
     
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  5. Jaggro

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    Selling Gerard Pique was one of the biggest mistakes Fergie ever made. They had a choice between Jonny Evans and Pique, and they chose Evans. Look at the gulf in class between them now. Pique's still only pretty young and would probably cost over £30m now.

    Also, what part of that Youtube video suggests that Eilhoff is a bit dodgy? (I didn't watch it all)
     
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  6. RicardoHCAFC

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    I thought Pique wanted to return to Barcelona when Man U sold him so they didn't have much choice in the matter?
     
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  7. originallambrettaman

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    He's a Barca fan, so he probably did want to go back there, but Man United weren't forced to sell him, they obviously didn't rate him as potentially a big money player, or they wouldn't have let him go for just over £3m.
     
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  8. TONY_WARNERS_FACE.

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    Aargh, I wasn't saying "If he's not good enough for Man Utd he's not good enough for us", that'd be stupid. Simply saying I find it a bit weird how they weren't willing to sell him in January but they are now.
     
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  9. Nick HCAFC

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    Hope we get Evans signed up, better to get young promising players and develop them rather than wasting a lot of money on cynical old pros who put in a shift when they feel like it. Not surprised to see TWF slagging Evans and showing yet again his complete lack of football knowledge, the plastic jonny come lately that he is
     
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  10. Constcrepe

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    Correct.
     
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  11. originallambrettaman

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    It looks like we've paid(or will be paying) £500k for Evans.
     
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  12. HC

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    http://www.thisishullandeastriding....Headline/article-3425759-detail/article.html?

    HDM stating it is done deal but he may have cost us about £500k. Isn't he out of contract in the summer? I don't know how clubs normally deal with this as unless he is offered a new deal at man u he would have been free to leave in the summer wouldn't he? Is this just the cost of making sure he comes to city rather than another club or maybe they were considering a new contract for him and this is to stop them? Alternatively it could well be a completely made up figure!
     
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  13. Erik

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    Nominal fees apply for under-23's. <ok>
     
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  14. originallambrettaman

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    We had an offer of around £300k turned down in January, so the £500k mentioned might well be just an educated guess.

    He's a Man United academy player, who's under 24, so even if he was out of contract Man United will still be entitled to compensation from the next club he signed for, that would probably be a few hundred grand anyway, so it makes sense to sort it now.

    I noticed recently that he was runner up in the Man United reserve player of the year awards, nothing particularly surprising in that, only the kid he lost to was called Chester. :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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  15. HC

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    Would that apply if they didn't offer him a new deal? I don't know exactly how it works anyway I suppose they probably offer a deal to most youngsters even if they actually don't want to keep them just to ensure they get a fee/compensation if they think that is likely.
     
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  16. originallambrettaman

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    It's not all that clear without going back and checking all the rule numbers mentioned, but here's the general conditions:

    Compensation
    91. The registration of a Student at a Football Academy under Rule N.49 or at a Centre of Excellence under Rule N.50 and the registration of a Student who has entered into a Scholarship Agreement under Rule N.77 shall impose an obligation on the applicant Club to pay compensation for the training and development of that Student to the Club (or club) (if any) which last held his registration if:
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    91.1 in the case of a Club, it had indicated in Form 29 its intention to retain the registration
    of that Student; or
    91.2 in the case of a Football League club, it had indicated in the prescribed form its like intention; or
    91.3 in either case, it had offered to enter into a Scholarship Agreement with the Student which offer the Student had not accepted; or
    91.4 the Student sought registration at the applicant Club because he had moved residence outside the permitted travelling time of the former Club (or club).
    92. The New Registration of a Contract Player under Rule L.12 shall likewise impose an obligation on the Club next holding his registration to pay to the former Club (or club) compensation for the training and development of that Player if the former Club (or club):
    92.1 had held that Player&#8217;s registration as a Student; and
    92.2 had offered to enter into a Scholarship Agreement with him which offer he had not accepted; or
    92.3 had entered into a Scholarship Agreement with him; and either
    92.4 the Scholarship Agreement had been terminated at the Player&#8217;s request; or
    92.5 in accordance with the terms thereof the former Club (or club) had offered him a contract as a Contract Player which offer he had not accepted.
    93. The amount of compensation shall be:
    93.1 such sum as shall have been agreed between the applicant Club (or club) and the former Club or in default of agreement
    93.2 such sum as the Professional Football Compensation Committee on the application of either Club (or club) shall determine.
     
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  17. Erik

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    :emoticon-0138-think :emoticon-0113-sleep
     
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  18. originallambrettaman

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    I didn't copy and paste it either, I did it from memory. :emoticon-0112-wonde
     
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  19. Erik

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    <yikes>

    I feel guilty for not reading through it all now! ;)
     
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  20. McGregor HU5

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    Not forgetting Paul McShane. Haha.
     
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