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glynnak

glynnak

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the guy in row ll sk3 seat 91 or 92 behind me was once again calling for Pearsons head before the kick off.
this is the guy who against Brum said that he had been supporting City for 50 years---they were crap then and they are crap now and they have always been crap.

I saw my first game in October 1962 and in the 51 years Ive been a supporter its true that we have had some pretty poor teams (remember Franks Foxes?).
Its also true however that at times we have been quality.
When the old twat behind me claims to have started 50 years ago we were at the top of the old division 1 and that season we reached the f a cup final finishing 4th in div 1 after burning out at the end.

since then we have had the Bloomfield era when we had one of the most skillful club sides in Europe====Weller Sammels Birch Worthington etc.
Then came Martin ONiell and his team of stars.

Today the old git behind me was very quiet after the game started because we were playing well unlike the Brum game when in spite of my advancing years his 90 minute slating of the team and Pearson tempted me to turn round and lamp the twat.
I guess that if we dont stuff Blackburn on tuesday he will recover his vocal chords and restart the slagging.

It just makes me wonbder why if the old twat hates the team so much why has he wasted his life going to the matches.

RANT OVER
 
Rant accepted. Feel better for it glynnak? Ask him if he ever phones Radio Leicester on a Monday. Am sure he would find some like minded souls.
 
There's no pleasing some people Glynnak. It feels like some of our own fans have written off our chances this season before a ball was even kicked - some seem so desperate to be proven right that it seems at times as if they want us to fail. This leads to three different post match reactions - outrage when we lose or draw or faint praise tempered by a "this, that or the other is still wrong" comment when we win...or simply silence.

Isn't it quiet on here tonight? <whistle>
 
Yep I agree shocking start to the season. Pearson has no idea what he's doing, has no plan b, has lost the dressing room, has not given Vardy any confidence to be a better player this season etc ec. Heheh
Seriously though a great start to the season taking into account how last season ended.
What's the betting someone calls in to the Monday night moan in and finds something to moan about Hahaha
 
Oh! The bloke must have slept through the MO`N era ? What game was he watching then yesterday ? Not the game that made NP smile from the stand in, as far as I could tell, satisfaction............ so winning the lge cup & finishing in the top 10 was crap ?... & we did that twice (almost 3 times)

I must be annoying sitting next to some one like that, especially if you´ve both got season tickets.
 
glynnak said:
the guy in row ll sk3 seat 91 or 92 behind me was once again calling for Pearsons head before the kick off.
this is the guy who against Brum said that he had been supporting City for 50 years---they were crap then and they are crap now and they have always been crap.

I saw my first game in October 1962 and in the 51 years Ive been a supporter its true that we have had some pretty poor teams (remember Franks Foxes?).
Its also true however that at times we have been quality.
When the old twat behind me claims to have started 50 years ago we were at the top of the old division 1 and that season we reached the f a cup final finishing 4th in div 1 after burning out at the end.

since then we have had the Bloomfield era when we had one of the most skillful club sides in Europe====Weller Sammels Birch Worthington etc.
Then came Martin ONiell and his team of stars.

Today the old git behind me was very quiet after the game started because we were playing well unlike the Brum game when in spite of my advancing years his 90 minute slating of the team and Pearson tempted me to turn round and lamp the twat.
I guess that if we dont stuff Blackburn on tuesday he will recover his vocal chords and restart the slagging.

It just makes me wonbder why if the old twat hates the team so much why has he wasted his life going to the matches.

RANT OVER
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Pretty damn fine summary glynak - I don't go back quite a far as you, O'Farrell the first manager I saw. The Bloomfield era was fabulous, not just for its (relative) success in terms of FA Cup semi-final and League positions but more so for the wonderful football and the types of player it was worth paying your money to watch irrespective of the result - the artistry of Worthington and Weller, the dribbling of Lenny, the imperious defending of Cross and Sjoberg and the emerging brilliance of the next England goalkeeping legend, Peter Shilton.

The Jock Wallace era was also full of memorable times, if less memorable football, whilst nobody actually referred to us as 'the foxes' around then, the later mantra of 'foxes never quit' certainly applied - we had the fittest team in England if not the best footballers.

Gordon Milne was more for the purists where we saw the burgeoning talents of Lineker, Alan Amith and Gary Mac come to the fore - Milne's teams played some wonderful football and I particularly remember demolishing both Villa and Wolves at Filbo.

Then Martin O'Neil - we only went and won a bloody trophy! after all those years of 'nearly' - of my old man telling me about the post war cup final losses prior to the one I got to witness myself in 1969.

As you also point out, there were some pretty bleak times - Frank's Foxes must have been one of the worst collections of has-beens, misfits and incompetents ever to wear the shirt - even then I've some good memories - Hull away in the FA Cup where George Armstrong scored in a 1-0 win but I also pulled a girl from Thurmaston! - we had the side terrace that day and seemed to outnumber the locals so big was our following.

Personally, I've never slated the team at a game, never booed - never called for a manager's head - and, as you say, why continue to go down and pay good money if you don't even enjoy it.

The only thing that can be said for supporting the club for as long as you, I and similar life-long supporters have is that it gives you some perspective. You are able to compare teams, players and, for that matter managers, with knowledge stemming from experience - doesn't make us experts by any means but IMHO it certainly helps to cut through the fog of partisanship and helps to measure things objectively.
 
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Oh! The bloke must have slept through the MO`N era ? What game was he watching then yesterday ? Not the game that made NP smile from the stand in, as far as I could tell, satisfaction............ so winning the lge cup & finishing in the top 10 was crap ?... & we did that twice (almost 3 times)

I must be annoying sitting next to some one like that, especially if you´ve both got season tickets.
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Are you sure it wasn't wind? :)
 
You do have to wonder why some people bother going if that's their attitude. We used to have some folks in front of us in SK2 who just used to sit & chat all match, nothing abut the game. But if we, heaven forbid became vocal, a goal or 'questioning' a decision by the ref, they asked us to be quiet! They spent the whole of one match looking at each others holiday photo's!!
We're all allowed a difference of opinion about a player or a moan if we're not doing as well as we'd like, we've paid to do so but at the end of the day our primary interest should be supporting LCFC.
Some people would moan if they won the lottery...
 
Foxy in Foyle said:
You do have to wonder why some people bother going if that's their attitude. We used to have some folks in front of us in SK2 who just used to sit & chat all match, nothing abut the game. But if we, heaven forbid became vocal, a goal or 'questioning' a decision by the ref, they asked us to be quiet! They spent the whole of one match looking at each others holiday photo's!!
We're all allowed a difference of opinion about a player or a moan if we're not doing as well as we'd like, we've paid to do so but at the end of the day our primary interest should be supporting LCFC.
Some people would moan if they won the lottery...
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Two quid for getting the bloody Thjunderball, what all that about?
 
Do people still think we should have got rid of Nigel?

As I said people over analysed our slump at the end of the season, I said we would be alot stronger this season for having the squad together for a whole season. Last year we started to build something and this season we have a very good team that knows each others strengths and weakness. As individuals alot have come in long way in 12 months

Nigel was the best man last year and still is the best man for the job.
 
Best start in 22 years ... Pearson Out!

Some people only like to remember the bad times, because its easier for people to criticize than complement.

Just take solace in the fact that you older gents are not as bitter as he is

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LeicesterWizard said:
Best start in 22 years ... Pearson Out!

Some people only like to remember the bad times, because its easier for people to criticize than complement.

Just take solace in the fact that you older gents are not as bitter as he is
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I have always been supportive of Nigel and even when we was in our bad run last season I was fully behind him. I think keeping Nigel was the best thing we could have done and now were getting results. Were still recovering from Sven's trolley dash and Nigel has still managed to put a very good team together

Nigel is clearly well liked and respected by the players which was emphasised by Wes Morgan's comments at the weekend. If we sacked Nigel I think players like Schmeichel, Morgan and Knockaert would have pushed for a move elsewhere. Nigel will bring success here if he is given time

People need to remember we want long term success that is sustainable and not short term success where we got promoted and come straight back down like Derby did and Hull are now
 
Do people still think we should have got rid of Nigel?
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As I have stated previously, I think the best man for the job to get us to comply with FFP and to manage the squad on a budget is Nigel Pearson. Do I think that he is the man to bring harmony and team spirit to an entire squad, then no I dont.

Do I think he could get us promoted, then yes he possibly could.

Do I think he would be the right person to lead us in a Premiership campaign - only if he got some more staff around him as he does appear (in my opinion), to have some gaps in hs armoury.



..... and Ed - critique is something that everybody faces in life - whether you are a football manager, whether it is in performance reviews in a workplace, or simply as a friend or father. I have no problem with critique. I am certainly not bitter that NP is still our manager.

Overall, I hope he is with us at the end of the season, purely because of FFP. Also, cannot argue with the results so far.

Beyond that, judgement is reserved. The thing to remember is that he is still relatively new as a full time manager (is it 5 or 6 years now?). He still has a lot to learn (as proved last season and his treatment of local press). I just hope he is open enough to learn.
 
Proud_Fox said:
I have always been supportive of Nigel and even when we was in our bad run last season I was fully behind him. I think keeping Nigel was the best thing we could have done and now were getting results. Were still recovering from Sven's trolley dash and Nigel has still managed to put a very good team together

Nigel is clearly well liked and respected by the players which was emphasised by Wes Morgan's comments at the weekend. If we sacked Nigel I think players like Schmeichel, Morgan and Knockaert would have pushed for a move elsewhere. Nigel will bring success here if he is given time

People need to remember we want long term success that is sustainable and not short term success where we got promoted and come straight back down like Derby did and Hull are now
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I don't think the players would have handed in transfer requests, you don't quit a job because your managers been fired, you see what the next manager does before sorting your future out.

It will prob have worked out the same way for many of them anyway, with Nigel here or not, they will run their contracts down this year and see what they will do based on where we are. Personally i think if/when we can no longer achieve a top 6 spot, alot of our players whos contracts will be running out will sign pre-contracts with other clubs.

I stick by my theory that Billy Davies or Dave Jones (both were recent departees of Forest and Cardiff at the time) would have done a good job too, but with FFP coming in, no-one will do a better job than Pearson and his backroom team imo.
 
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I don't think the players would have handed in transfer requests, you don't quit a job because your managers been fired, you see what the next manager does before sorting your future out.

It will prob have worked out the same way for many of them anyway, with Nigel here or not, they will run their contracts down this year and see what they will do based on where we are. Personally i think if/when we can no longer achieve a top 6 spot, alot of our players whos contracts will be running out will sign pre-contracts with other clubs.

I stick by my theory that Billy Davies or Dave Jones (both were recent departees of Forest and Cardiff at the time) would have done a good job too, but with FFP coming in, no-one will do a better job than Pearson and his backroom team imo.
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A lot of sense here for me Wizard - particularly on the player front. IMHO no player automatically decides to move because a manager comes or goes - but some inevitably do follow a manager, particularly a successful one e.g Neil Lennon following Martin O'Neil to Celtic, Felaini recently.
 
Barwellfox said:
As I have stated previously, I think the best man for the job to get us to comply with FFP and to manage the squad on a budget is Nigel Pearson. Do I think that he is the man to bring harmony and team spirit to an entire squad, then no I dont.

Do I think he could get us promoted, then yes he possibly could.

Do I think he would be the right person to lead us in a Premiership campaign - only if he got some more staff around him as he does appear (in my opinion), to have some gaps in hs armoury.



..... and Ed - critique is something that everybody faces in life - whether you are a football manager, whether it is in performance reviews in a workplace, or simply as a friend or father. I have no problem with critique. I am certainly not bitter that NP is still our manager.

Overall, I hope he is with us at the end of the season, purely because of FFP. Also, cannot argue with the results so far.

Beyond that, judgement is reserved. The thing to remember is that he is still relatively new as a full time manager (is it 5 or 6 years now?). He still has a lot to learn (as proved last season and his treatment of local press). I just hope he is open enough to learn.
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As you might expect <laugh>, I agree with a lot of this. Nigel still has an awful lot to do to convince me is up to the job at the highest level - with all due respect, he has proven nothing as yet. For me it will come down to his tactics in 'big games' i.e if we come up against premier league opposition or in a pressure situations like the play-offs. To date his record in both is a losing one. Martin O'Neil had an uncanny knack of winning such games by getting his tactics right, Leeds, Arsenal, Fulham in the cups, the Cup finals (bar Spurs) and the play-offs.
 
Barwellfox said:
As I have stated previously, I think the best man for the job to get us to comply with FFP and to manage the squad on a budget is Nigel Pearson. Do I think that he is the man to bring harmony and team spirit to an entire squad, then no I dont.

Do I think he could get us promoted, then yes he possibly could.

Do I think he would be the right person to lead us in a Premiership campaign - only if he got some more staff around him as he does appear (in my opinion), to have some gaps in hs armoury.



..... and Ed - critique is something that everybody faces in life - whether you are a football manager, whether it is in performance reviews in a workplace, or simply as a friend or father. I have no problem with critique. I am certainly not bitter that NP is still our manager.

Overall, I hope he is with us at the end of the season, purely because of FFP. Also, cannot argue with the results so far.

Beyond that, judgement is reserved. The thing to remember is that he is still relatively new as a full time manager (is it 5 or 6 years now?). He still has a lot to learn (as proved last season and his treatment of local press). I just hope he is open enough to learn.
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Eh, someone talking to me!?
 
LeicesterWizard said:
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I don't think the players would have handed in transfer requests, you don't quit a job because your managers been fired, you see what the next manager does before sorting your future out.

It will prob have worked out the same way for many of them anyway, with Nigel here or not, they will run their contracts down this year and see what they will do based on where we are. Personally i think if/when we can no longer achieve a top 6 spot, alot of our players whos contracts will be running out will sign pre-contracts with other clubs.

I stick by my theory that Billy Davies or Dave Jones (both were recent departees of Forest and Cardiff at the time) would have done a good job too, but with FFP coming in, no-one will do a better job than Pearson and his backroom team imo.
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The players seem very settled here respect and rate Nigel. Wes and Kasper have said in recent months how much they enjoy working under Nigel. In recent weeks Liam Moore, Andy King, Sean St. Ledger and David Nugent have all said they will like the remain beyond the end of their current contracts

I dont think its a coincidence that whenever we change manager their is alot of players coming and going.
 
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