Off Topic Paris Attacks !

[Deleted #]

Yes..to be left to live my life and not be associAted with ISIS..and to defend myself from the mud slinging. In the meantime to carry on exhistence in my country...abiding by the laws of the land...that's not enough though.

You said and I quote "I don't see much difference between you and them apart from one of you act on your hatred, the other are a set of keyboard warriors."

Anybody with half a brain can see what you were doing with that post, it doesn't need to be explained. Like UIR says, your posts are a give away...

 

[UnitedinRed]

Yes..to be left to live my life and not be associAted with ISIS..and to defend myself from the mud slinging. In the meantime to carry on exhistence in my country...abiding by the laws of the land...that's not enough though.

Who has associated you with Isis? We have associated Isis with Islam.

All that's been said is Muslims have a role to play. You had a tantrum and started being offensive. You were caller out on it and backtracked.

But nobody, unless you can show otherwise, said YOU are associated with Isis.

 

[Spurlock]

You said and I quote "I don't see much difference between you and them apart from one of you act on your hatred, the other are a set of keyboard warriors."

Anybody with half a brain can see what you were doing with that post, it doesn't need to be explained. Like UIR says, your posts are a give away...

Yes and I go by that based on the tripe I've had to endure..On here...especially on your hatred filled thread.i can either shut up and put up or fight my corner.

When I know for a fact ISIS is not me...and it is a basterdisation of my belief, then I will never agree with it..and distance it from my faith. Then on the other hand I see that regardless of that....some people on here refuse to accept me for my religion...until they see me sat in a pub getting pissed. Never mind that I get on with my life and don't break laws and integrate enough to have a life here since it's my country.

No matter what ive said to distance myself......you ****ers want more...because quite frankly you won't be happy until I denounce my faith. No can do..no will do.

Therefore my type end up isolated.....therefore the bigots amongst you and ISIS piss in the same pot...it's just the intensity that differs.

There I've said it again using different wording.

Bye bye.

 

[Spurlock]

Who has associated you with Isis? We have associated Isis with Islam.

All that's been said is Muslims have a role to play. You had a tantrum and started being offensive. You were caller out on it and backtracked.

But nobody, unless you can show otherwise, said YOU are associated with Isis.

The thread is there for all to see..I'm backtracking on nothing. You however keep on chasing your own tail.

My beliefs, them of a Muslim...make ME.....therefore you do associate ME, due to your simple mind and lack of knowledge...you see it as a threat...yet after umpteen examples and explanations you still Banging on...so you keep to that.

If your concern is sincere, you would see what I mean. However if you have an agenda to fuel..you just won't accept anything...and I won't fall into the trap of justifying my own exhistence to you and yours....your ****in problem since you won't give me a leg to stand on.

Bye bye once again.

 

[UnitedinRed]

The thread is there for all to see..I'm backtracking on nothing. You however keep on chasing your own tail.

My beliefs make ME.....therefore you do associate ME, due to your simple mind and lack of knowledge.

Bye bye once again.

So... Who said Spurlock was Isis? Own up.

 

[PINKIE]

The majority of people that ISIS kill are Muslim.

Their extreme interpretation of the Quran calls for apostates (interpreted as any Muslim who doesn't follow their strict code) to be murdered, the Saudi monarchy and anybody who supports them, then thirdly the Crusaders (the West) who they view as wanting to crush Islam. Anybody who is left is seen as fair game for either slavery (men and children) or concubines (women)

As barbaric as they are, their extreme dogma should be their undoing, because ultimately the califate needs to expand into other territories. They have only gained so much influence because of the vacuum left in Iraq and the civil war in Syria. If they tried to expand into Iran, Jordan, Turkey or Saudi Arabia, they would be crushed.

Also the Califate demands that Muslims go there to become part of the Islamic State, not go to fight overseas. The doctrine is to create an Islamic State, draw in the Army of Rome (the west) defeat them and trigger the Apocalypse (these are fundamentalists after all) and create a new Islamic world. As much as ISIS like to claim responsibility for Paris, it doesn't fit with their ideology, that attack was much more likely to be Al-Qaeda who have carried out similar attacks and who's doctrine is congruent with causing terror on foreign soil.

 

[UnitedinRed]

The majority of people that ISIS kill are Muslim.

Their extreme interpretation of the Quran calls for apostates (interpreted as any Muslim who doesn't follow their strict code) to be murdered, the Saudi monarchy and anybody who supports them, then thirdly the Crusaders (the West) who they view as wanting to crush Islam. Anybody who is left is seen as fair game for either slavery (men and children) or concubines (women)

As barbaric as they are, their extreme dogma should be their undoing, because ultimately the califate needs to expand into other territories. They have only gained so much influence because of the vacuum left in Iraq and the civil war in Syria. If they tried to expand into Iran, Jordan, Turkey or Saudi Arabia, they would be crushed.

Also the Califate demands that Muslims go there to become part of the Islamic State, not go to fight overseas. The doctrine is to create an Islamic State, draw in the Army of Rome (the west) defeat them and trigger the Apocalypse (these are fundamentalists after all) and create a new Islamic world. As much as ISIS like to claim responsibility for Paris, it doesn't fit with their ideology, that attack was much more likely to be Al-Qaeda who have carried out similar attacks and who's doctrine is congruent with causing terror on foreign soil.

Its the true interpretation of the qaran. I wish people would stop trying to deny Islams routes and how it spread. Its come to a point that most deny Muhammeds military career, where he directly ordered or supported executions and mass killings of non believers. He also bought and sold slaves.

A great many people died as a direct result of Muhammed spreading his faith.

That doesn't mean all Muslims are like that. Many believe a very watered down, edited version (hence why I stated I have never seen an original copy of either the qaran or bible) that likes to forget about dome of the less pleasant things. It also contradicts itself a thousand times over, exactly like the bible.

Put it this way, if Muhammed was alive today, he would be on a terrorist watch list. Because his actions 1600 years ago, were closer to Isis than to your everyday Muslim with a conscience.

One guy claimed a military war lord didn't use violence though. Its warped.

 

[Highburyal]

Billions

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[Highburyal]

Its the true interpretation of the qaran. I wish people would stop trying to deny Islams routes and how it spread. Its come to a point that most deny Muhammeds military career, where he directly ordered or supported executions and mass killings of non believers. He also bought and sold slaves.

A great many people died as a direct result of Muhammed spreading his faith.

That doesn't mean all Muslims are like that. Many believe a very watered down, edited version (hence why I stated I have never seen an original copy of either the qaran or bible) that likes to forget about dome of the less pleasant things. It also contradicts itself a thousand times over, exactly like the bible.

Put it this way, if Muhammed was alive today, he would be on a terrorist watch list. Because his actions 1600 years ago, were closer to Isis than to your everyday Muslim with a conscience.

One guy claimed a military war lord didn't use violence though. Its warped.

For someone who doesnt own/read a Quran seems to know a awful lot about it seems!

You really dont have a clue do? The Quran has never been edited, nor is there various version of the Quran like the bible! if you can show me the watered down version of the Quran I would be grateful and the changed version.

Ignorance isnt always a bliss! Please do tell me what terrorist activities he would be on the watch list for?

 

[Deleted #]

For someone who doesnt own/read a Quran seems to know a awful lot about it seems!

You really dont have a clue do? The Quran has never been edited, nor is there various version of the Quran like the bible! if you can show me the watered down version of the Quran I would be grateful and the changed version.

Ignorance isnt always a bliss! Please do tell me what terrorist activities he would be on the watch list for?

He'd be signing the register that nonce

 

[UnitedinRed]

For someone who doesnt own/read a Quran seems to know a awful lot about it seems!

You really dont have a clue do? The Quran has never been edited, nor is there various version of the Quran like the bible! if you can show me the watered down version of the Quran I would be grateful and the changed version.

Ignorance isnt always a bliss! Please do tell me what terrorist activities he would be on the watch list for?

The mass murder of 1000s of Jews, pagans, christians and other non believers, the enslaving of women and children, the assassination of political and religious opposition.

 

[Highburyal]

He'd be signing the register that nonce

And what register would that be? Are deliberately trying to provoke by name calling? is it any wonder Spurlock retaliated!

 

[Highburyal]

The mass murder of 1000s of Jews, pagans, christians and other non believers, the enslaving of women and children, the assassination of political and religious opposition.

Do backup your assertions, instead of doing the typical "he did this, this and this"

 

[luvgonzo]

The petty arguing on this thread should stop, it's no longer a debate and is coming accross a childish and ignorant I would suggest that all parties involved leave each other alone.

You can do what you like of course this is just a suggestion.

 

[Highburyal]

The petty arguing on this thread should stop, it's no longer a debate and is coming accross a childish and ignorant I would suggest that all parties involved leave each other alone.

You can do what you like of course this is just a suggestion.

You are right on this, this isn't a debate! There are ignorants that are baiting people for arguments like a child!

Debates should be polite and within reasoning, not name calling and abusing someones belief!

 

[Deleted #]

Maybe that chip on his shoulder is there because the things taken for granted in this country(UK)doesn't apply to Spurlock or other decent followers of the Muslim faith, because of the murderous actions of Islamic fundamentalists all Muslims are looked at suspiciously by the now frightened people of our inner cities.

Cause for Spurlock to be pissed of with how society views him just because of his faith?

Yes.

You believe everybody generalises Muslims which is wrong and here's you generalising society's views on Muslims.

Oh the irony

 

[Milk not bear jizz]

Should have read the thread. Spurlocks the one calling drinkers equal to terrorists and British women sluts.

What's wrong with sluts?

 

[Deleted #]

And what register would that be? Are deliberately trying to provoke by name calling? is it any wonder Spurlock retaliated!

The sex offenders register

 

[luvgonzo]

And on it goes.

 

[Milk not bear jizz]

The majority of people that ISIS kill are Muslim.

Their extreme interpretation of the Quran calls for apostates (interpreted as any Muslim who doesn't follow their strict code) to be murdered, the Saudi monarchy and anybody who supports them, then thirdly the Crusaders (the West) who they view as wanting to crush Islam. Anybody who is left is seen as fair game for either slavery (men and children) or concubines (women)

As barbaric as they are, their extreme dogma should be their undoing, because ultimately the califate needs to expand into other territories. They have only gained so much influence because of the vacuum left in Iraq and the civil war in Syria. If they tried to expand into Iran, Jordan, Turkey or Saudi Arabia, they would be crushed.

Also the Califate demands that Muslims go there to become part of the Islamic State, not go to fight overseas. The doctrine is to create an Islamic State, draw in the Army of Rome (the west) defeat them and trigger the Apocalypse (these are fundamentalists after all) and create a new Islamic world. As much as ISIS like to claim responsibility for Paris, it doesn't fit with their ideology, that attack was much more likely to be Al-Qaeda who have carried out similar attacks and who's doctrine is congruent with causing terror on foreign soil.

Exactly. They're much more concerned with killing other Muslims than westerners. Its why they haven't really been involved in attacks on the west until now. The current attacks if really Daesh and not some other group (i bet they turn out to be only loosely affiliated) are a bit puzzling and represent a change in tact by IS. They are diversifying and losing their core.