Off Topic Paris Attacks !

[Milk not bear jizz]

Many women have said the same of me tbh

Damn. My comment was too late.

 

[Ivan Dobsky]

Buy enough flatpack and you will get there eventally, good luck making one room from another though

Do they come with those diddy, multi-spanners?

 

[Milk not bear jizz]

Did someone on this thread say racist?

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[BBFs Unpopular View]

Little fact.

France is the 3rd biggest arms seller in the world. France's biggest customer is... the United Arab Emirates, who only fund and support terrorism like.
The French gov has blood of French people on its hands not just the terrorists.

Also, for the gun control people. France has tight gun control laws.

 

[HugoEkitikeN01]

were just the kids in the dark !.

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[Spurlock]

Isn't it slightly ironic though that whenever something like this happens then Western media and people in general use terms similar to 'our lifestyle' 'way of life' 'western civilisation and ideals' have been attacked. Yet such an act seems to give a lot of people the right to absolutely and totally dissect any aspect of Islam and it always comes down to 'how they treat their women'

I can show you 10 women who are happy with Islam and its teachings to the one some documentary has managed to pluck out to say that she is oppressed. Don't get me wrong..I'm sure some are forced. However once again that is not Islam, it is interpretation. I can also show you plenty British females who don't think their culture is all that either...and how their men are pissheads, single British mothers I know who think the kids dad is a **** because was shagging someone else The amount of single Brit females I know that are quite frankly sluts..etc etc, I'm all for putting the blame on western culture...not nice though is it if your the British person who isn't like that and is tarnished with that brush. I also know of western people that don't drink as a lifestyle choice and that is always seen with a raised eyebrow by fellow white people. I think these people are just as bad as those that blow themselves up in the name of something they don't actually believe in. Because given half the chance I'm sure they would happily start lynching their own people who are not agreeing with their British culture, they just don't have the means. That is why it flows out of their remarks so easily once they think they have an excuse once again to dissect Islam starting with some women issues because the British culture is always big with their PC bullshit...yet they don't see their hypocrisy.

We could go toe to toe everyday of our lives..but I know for a fact this is not going to get solved. The terrorists are just these same people who talk rubbish about hating and seeing Islam as a threat in the British culture. One has guns , the other is, well British, to want for a better phrase..you know..the type that historically thinks it is at the forefront of everything that people should be like. Thats why they have been obsessed with colonising and white collar pillaging for centuries. It is in their blood to tell the rest of the world how to live...even when they actually haven't got a clue as to what makes people happy...because they don't know the positive realities of any other culture but their own.

So I don't think women in Islam has got anything to do with terrorism. If you asked the 1.7 billion Muslims in this world what is female oppression..they would say...sexualisation of women and how tragic it is that the western women have bought into it...but you see it as freedom. So like I said we could go toe to toe forever.

Bullshit to think it's ok to start ripping into Islam as a faith just because ,it's the latest bad flavour of the month...you see how the animosity is created on a minors scale by being isolated as a group of people and how over years and decades that can escalate into what is happening now.

In response to me seeing this escalating into a burka issue with some threads, pathetic.

 

[BBFs Unpopular View]

Isn't it slightly ironic though that whenever something like this happens then Western media and people in general use terms similar to 'our lifestyle' 'way of life' 'western civilisation and ideals' have been attacked. Yet such an act seems to give a lot of people the right to absolutely and totally dissect any aspect of Islam and it always comes down to 'how they treat their women'

I can show you 10 women who are happy with Islam and its teachings to the one some documentary has managed to pluck out to say that she is oppressed. Don't get me wrong..I'm sure some are forced. However once again that is not Islam, it is interpretation. I can also show you plenty British females who don't think their culture is all that either...and how their men are pissheads, single British mothers I know who think the kids dad is a **** because was shagging someone else The amount of single Brit females I know that are quite frankly sluts..etc etc, I'm all for putting the blame on western culture...not nice though is it if your the British person who isn't like that and is tarnished with that brush. I also know of western people that don't drink as a lifestyle choice and that is always seen with a raised eyebrow by fellow white people. I think these people are just as bad as those that blow themselves up in the name of something they don't actually believe in. Because given half the chance I'm sure they would happily start lynching their own people who are not agreeing with their British culture, they just don't have the means. That is why it flows out of their remarks so easily once they think they have an excuse once again to dissect Islam starting with some women issues because the British culture is always big with their PC bullshit...yet they don't see their hypocrisy.

We could go toe to toe everyday of our lives..but I know for a fact this is not going to get solved. The terrorists are just these same people who talk rubbish about hating and seeing Islam as a threat in the British culture. One has guns , the other is, well British, to want for a better phrase..you know..the type that historically thinks it is at the forefront of everything that people should be like. Thats why they have been obsessed with colonising and white collar pillaging for centuries. It is in their blood to tell the rest of the world how to live...even when they actually haven't got a clue as to what makes people happy...because they don't know the positive realities of any other culture but their own.

So I don't think women in Islam has got anything to do with terrorism. If you asked the 1.7 billion Muslims in this world what is female oppression..they would say...sexualisation of women and how tragic it is that the western women have bought into it...but you see it as freedom. So like I said we could go toe to toe forever.

Bullshit to think it's ok to start ripping into Islam as a faith just because ,it's the latest bad flavour of the month...you see how the animosity is created on a minors scale by being isolated as a group of people and how over years and decades that can escalate into what is happening now.

In response to me seeing this escalating into a burka issue with some threads, pathetic.

The whole "women are oppressed" is a faux moral argument. No one cares about these women, they only care about the leverage in an argument.
What I find interesting is none of these people have asked the women actually wearing the Burka even think. Isn't that what they are claiming Islamic men are doing

A while back I watched a US journalist interviewing Iranian women in Iran. These were intelligent proud women, they didn't look anything like the portrayals we see everywhere. Iraqi women were also highly educated, doctors scientists, not now tho, thanks to western "ideals" being forced on Iraq.

Syria is secular, but the rebels, are hardliners Sharia law types, that is never mentioned that us moral western Christians are trying to remove a secular government and install an extremist dictatorship. Like in Libya.

I worked with an Iraqi girl in it must have been 2002 maybe or 2003.
what I found with that was the whole sexual element was nullified, she was a good looking girl, but you knew flirting or any physical contact would be met with displeasure and seen as an insult, by her, not her husband though he'd also not be happy I am sure. She had class, you could sense it. She wore normal clothes and worked with what were mostly men.

But we think she should have been more like Miley Cyrus or Katie Prrice?

Examples picked by the media are always the most extreme examples, the media has no interest in showing millions of happy Muslim women

 

[BBFs Unpopular View]

Or here in Finalnd actually, my kids love one of the creche carers called Amina from Somalia, she wears the whole cover bar the face cover.
Can't shake her hand if you are a man, lovely women, extremely friendly and apparently happy. My daughter was fascinated with her. She speaks English Swedish Finnish fluently obviously as aswell as her own language.

Intelligent friendly woman, Oppressed? I don't think so.

 

[Tobes]

The amount of single Brit females I know that are quite frankly sluts..etc etc,
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You mean sexually liberated and capable of making their own choices with regards to what they do with their own bodies?

I also know of western people that don't drink as a lifestyle choice and that is always seen with a raised eyebrow by fellow white people. I think these people are just as bad as those that blow themselves up in the name of something they don't actually believe in.

So you would rank a white Brit who raises an eyebrow at someone who is tea total, on the same level as a suicide bomber?

That's one whacked set of principles you're living by lad.

 

[NSIS]

For me, it comes down to a matter of choice. If a British woman chooses to sexualise herself by getting her tits out for page three, that's up to her. She doesn't have to do it, nobody is forcing her.

You can go into town any Saturday night and see young girls walking about with it all hanging out. It's their choice. I'm assuming nobody forces them to dress like that. Ok, maybe there's implied peer pressure to an extent.

Similarly, if Islamic women are genuinely happy to wear the burka and the veil, then that's their choice. It's when that freedom of choice is taken away, either my direct threats, or by the implied threat of opprobrium, that I have a problem with it.

Freedom of choice should be just that.

 

[Tobes]

The terrorists are just these same people who talk rubbish about hating and seeing Islam as a threat in the British culture. One has guns , the other is, well British, to want for a better phrase..you know..the type that historically thinks it is at the forefront of everything that people should be like. .

So fundamentalist terrorists are are on a par with British people who dare to pass comment about what they think about the way the muslim culture should integrate within these shores?

What absolute pap.

If I moved to Iran I wouldn't be pontificating about how I feel that Iranians should accept any aspect of my Western culture into their society. I wouldn't expect them to accept alcohol, exposing too much skin, the Christian faith or anything else for that matter. As it would be my choice as to whether I chose to live there or not and their culture is completely different to ours.

 

[Drogs]

Isn't it slightly ironic though that whenever something like this happens then Western media and people in general use terms similar to 'our lifestyle' 'way of life' 'western civilisation and ideals' have been attacked. Yet such an act seems to give a lot of people the right to absolutely and totally dissect any aspect of Islam and it always comes down to 'how they treat their women'

I can show you 10 women who are happy with Islam and its teachings to the one some documentary has managed to pluck out to say that she is oppressed. Don't get me wrong..I'm sure some are forced. However once again that is not Islam, it is interpretation. I can also show you plenty British females who don't think their culture is all that either...and how their men are pissheads, single British mothers I know who think the kids dad is a **** because was shagging someone else The amount of single Brit females I know that are quite frankly sluts..etc etc, I'm all for putting the blame on western culture...not nice though is it if your the British person who isn't like that and is tarnished with that brush. I also know of western people that don't drink as a lifestyle choice and that is always seen with a raised eyebrow by fellow white people. I think these people are just as bad as those that blow themselves up in the name of something they don't actually believe in. Because given half the chance I'm sure they would happily start lynching their own people who are not agreeing with their British culture, they just don't have the means. That is why it flows out of their remarks so easily once they think they have an excuse once again to dissect Islam starting with some women issues because the British culture is always big with their PC bullshit...yet they don't see their hypocrisy.

We could go toe to toe everyday of our lives..but I know for a fact this is not going to get solved. The terrorists are just these same people who talk rubbish about hating and seeing Islam as a threat in the British culture. One has guns , the other is, well British, to want for a better phrase..you know..the type that historically thinks it is at the forefront of everything that people should be like. Thats why they have been obsessed with colonising and white collar pillaging for centuries. It is in their blood to tell the rest of the world how to live...even when they actually haven't got a clue as to what makes people happy...because they don't know the positive realities of any other culture but their own.

So I don't think women in Islam has got anything to do with terrorism. If you asked the 1.7 billion Muslims in this world what is female oppression..they would say...sexualisation of women and how tragic it is that the western women have bought into it...but you see it as freedom. So like I said we could go toe to toe forever.

Bullshit to think it's ok to start ripping into Islam as a faith just because ,it's the latest bad flavour of the month...you see how the animosity is created on a minors scale by being isolated as a group of people and how over years and decades that can escalate into what is happening now.

In response to me seeing this escalating into a burka issue with some threads, pathetic.

Are you actually saying that people in this country would commit similar acts of violence because somebody doesn't like a drink? Sorry if I've totally misinterpreted you, but can you explain how those people are as bad as those who blow themselves up?

 

[Stan]

Are you actually saying that people in this country would commit similar acts of violence because somebody doesn't like a drink? Sorry if I've totally misinterpreted you, but can you explain how those people are as bad as those who blow themselves up?

I need that post explaining as well. It was a bit of a rant...

 

[HugoEkitikeN01]

Who does not like a drink or women for that matter?.Arabs are the greatest hypocrites: they do not like to drink and whenever they are out their country they drink and arrange for women for their pleasure.This is what their religion say, but they are doing different things all the time. Another Holy Book do not condone getting drunk and that is the Bible. Drinking reasonably is acceptable.

 

[NSIS]

Who does not like a drink or women for that matter.Arabs are the greatest hypocrites: they do not like to
drink and whenever they are out their country they drink and arrange for women for their pleasure.
This is what their religion say, but they are doing different things all the time. Another Holy Book do not
condone getting drunk and that is the Bible. Drinking reasonably is acceptable.

Very true! Saudis are one of the worst! On a flight back from Bahrain, we stopped in Jeddah. These guys all got on dressed in the full gear. As soon as the plane took off, it all came off. As soon as the plane was out of Saudi airspace, out came the Johnny Walker Black Label. They had to carry one of the twats off the plane at Heathrow.

 

[Spurlock]

I'm not even bothered about it. My problem was that whenever something like this happens. It seems to make people think they have a free reign to rip into a whole faith...and women is always where it leads to...since hijab came into this debate regarding a few crazy basterd killers. So to me that says there are a lot of hidden agendas in people.

You can give examples of good and bad in everything. Not everyone sees the world through English eyes, Western eyes,European eyes...but these kind of incidents bring out everyone's two pence worth about Islam, the faith.

I was born and raised here. I live side by side with everyone. My wife happens to be a white British lady. Our kids are mixed. My wife admires the Islamic faith. Her family are not Muslim. We socialise happily..and live like everyone else.

Whenever this kind of **** happens I always say to her 'watch now how we get ripped up' and I'm never disappointed.

My observations about women earlier would be fine if they came from a white person. I know some white women who take thepiss out of how white women are naive no over sexualised etc etc. It's ok when they say it..when I say it..it is an Islamic thing. It's beyond ****ing pathetic. I don't care how people live..just live...but I don't think it is true the other way round.

I was asked on the Swansea board by an individual to basically prove how I integrate with British society.

It's not enough that I was born and raised here. Pay my bills, taxes ra ra ra. He wanted to know wether I got drunk would be willing to laugh at my own faith ala Charlie hebdo and other crap like that because that's British culture. Well quite frankly no...but does that make me any less British? Its pathetic......most people forget if ISIS ever came to these shores...I'm a dead man too...they are not us.

Yet we also have this underlying agenda to face where the British public feels as though we don't integrate because we won't sell our soul.

I'm off to chill with my white wife and half British baby and munch on a lasagne whilst watching some crap on t.v..it's my day off. Hope that's integrating enough. Think I'll give combing my beard and plotting to conquer this ****ing country a miss today. You see as far as I can see we are ****ed both ways, unless I leave my faith, no can do or no will do. I love it for what it preaches in essence. But your fine to live the way you do, I won't shoot anyone.

Can't wait for the footy to return. I'll get back to supporting my football club of 30 plus years, which is decorated in Jewish culture, you know, my ****ing enemies . For the integration police, hope that's a +1 on my 'how British is this muslim' survey.

 

[Spurlock]

Who does not like a drink or women for that matter?.Arabs are the greatest hypocrites: they do not like to drink and whenever they are out their country they drink and arrange for women for their pleasure.This is what their religion say, but they are doing different things all the time. Another Holy Book do not condone getting drunk and that is the Bible. Drinking reasonably is acceptable.

Spot on....I love women..I don't drink that's my choice. But who the **** gave anyone the right to conclude that if a woman is wearing her Islamic dress that she does not have a happy sex life somwhere? Because she won't give you a nipple peek? The ****ing arrogance of some minds.

I don't fancy a discussion about it. I can't change narrow minded thoughts. We have a great laugh between us about how Brits and other non Muslims have such a narrow minded perspective...anyway back to my Italian lunch.

 

[Tobes]

I'm not even bothered about it. My problem was that whenever something like this happens. It seems to make people think they have a free reign to rip into a whole faith...and women is always where it leads to...since hijab came into this debate regarding a few crazy basterd killers. So to me that says there are a lot of hidden agendas in people.

You can give examples of good and bad in everything. Not everyone sees the world through English eyes, Western eyes,European eyes...but these kind of incidents bring out everyone's two pence worth about Islam, the faith.

I was born and raised here. I live side by side with everyone. My wife happens to be a white British lady. Our kids are mixed. My wife admires the Islamic faith. Her family are not Muslim. We socialise happily..and live like everyone else.

Whenever this kind of **** happens I always say to her 'watch now how we get ripped up' and I'm never disappointed.

My observations about women earlier would be fine if they came from a white person. I know some white women who take thepiss out of how white women are naive no over sexualised etc etc. It's ok when they say it..when I say it..it is an Islamic thing. It's beyond ****ing pathetic. I don't care how people live..just live...but I don't think it is true the other way round.

I was asked on the Swansea board by an individual to basically prove how I integrate with British society.

It's not enough that I was born and raised here. Pay my bills, taxes ra ra ra. He wanted to know wether I got drunk would be willing to laugh at my own faith ala Charlie hebdo and other crap like that because that's British culture. Well quite frankly no...but does that make me any less British? Its pathetic......most people forget if ISIS ever came to these shores...I'm a dead man too...they are not us.

Yet we also have this underlying agenda to face where the British public feels as though we don't integrate because we won't sell our soul.

I'm off to chill with my white wife and half British baby and munch on a lasagne whilst watching some crap on t.v..it's my day off. Hope that's integrating enough. Think I'll give combing my beard and plotting to conquer this ****ing country a miss today. You see as far as I can see we are ****ed both ways, unless I leave my faith, no can do or no will do. I love it for what it preaches in essence. But your fine to live the way you do, I won't shoot anyone.

Can't wait for the footy to return. I'll get back to supporting my football club of 30 plus years, which is decorated in Jewish culture, you know, my ****ing enemies . For the integration police, hope that's a +1 on my 'how British is this muslim' survey.

Here lad, have this bag of King Eddies, at least then you'll be balanced

 

[Tobes]

Spot on....I love women..I don't drink that's my choice. But who the **** gave anyone the right to conclude that if a woman is wearing her Islamic dress that she does not have a happy sex life so where? Because she won't give you a nipple peek? The ****ing arrogance of some minds.

I don't fancy a discussion about it. I can't change narrow minded thoughts. We have a great laugh between us about how Brits and other non Muslims have such a narrow minded perspective...anyway back to my Italian lunch.

Who even intimated that?

I've never heard that said ever.

 

[Spurlock]

Who even intimated that?

I've never heard that said ever.

I have.

Because they hide behind their veil
because they are not confident.
They must be ugly

Etc,etc..Many times I've heard that, for many years.

How the **** does any **** know. Can only base it on because she dont walk around in a provocative state and blokes can't have an ogle.

boring, who gives a ****..we are used to it.

Have a good day.