Off Topic Paris Attacks !
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Try the first paragraph you dense pompous ****
You're welcome
So I didnt say it then. And you cant quote where I did lol
Calm down, you'll give yourself a hernia. Just think before you post next time. Save yourself looking dumb
He has had "meltdowns" on some subjects (and admitted it afterwards), but on the whole just puts stuff out there and waits for rebuttal
Oh dear.So I didnt say it then. And you cant quote where I did lol
Calm down, you'll give yourself a hernia. Just think before you post next time. Save yourself looking dumb
So despite me telling your exactly where you contradicted yourself, you've still chosen to come back and try and make out that it's my error in challenging the mighty dept head
I'll spell it out for you then soft bollocks
"we stared off talking about the responsibility of the wider Muslim community to do more but now we're talking about the 1% who want to blow the world up"
But they're not Muslims are they? They don't have any tie to the religion do they? It's nothing to do with Islam?
As I said, you're welcome.
Let me tell you something, you don't know me at all.
But so that you do, I am also a Muslim. I just had my daily life to live..you know..my integrated lifestyle. Went shopping with my family, managed to walk around shopping malls without killing anybody. Managed to mind my own business and didn't preach hatred. Managed to socialise with a few of my friends who happen to be white Brits etc etc...then came home along the M62 without feeling the need to break any laws.
That's why I didn't challenge you after my last post this afternoon not because I had nothing to say
Ohh and I managed to sit at a the table in a restaurant,my little boy got a few aww's from a white couple sat next to us...I managed to not blow them up.
I was born in Britain, I have no more of a reason to integrate like I have to put effort in, than any other person.
I attend mosque and we are told on occasional Friday sermons about the negativities of terrorists...you prove otherwise if you can.
So don't come along thinking you know me just because I challenged your boxed view and of a few others. It still does not change the fact that the West and its policies has blood on its hands. It still does not change the fact that for me and many many thousands of Muslims, no millions of Muslims, I.S does not belong to Islam regardless of how hard you want Muslims to take responsibility for them.
They attach themselves to the new common enemy of the world, that is Islam. It does not mean Islam attaches itself to them.
Ohh and if Islam preached hatred then your ****ed pal, because 1.7 billion people are Muslim in this world. If we all thought I.S and what they preach is Islam..then the rest of the world would be annihilated.
So to you be your way and me be mine
Let me tell you something, you don't know me at all.
But so that you do, I am also a Muslim. I just had my daily life to live..you know..my integrated lifestyle. Went shopping with my family, managed to walk around shopping malls without killing anybody. Managed to mind my own business and didn't preach hatred. Managed to socialise with a few of my friends who happen to be white Brits etc etc...then came home along the M62 without feeling the need to break any laws.
That's why I didn't challenge you after my last post this afternoon not because I had nothing to say
Ohh and I managed to sit at a the table in a restaurant,my little boy got a few aww's from a white couple sat next to us...I managed to not blow them up.
I was born in Britain, I have no more of a reason to integrate like I have to put effort in, than any other person.
I attend mosque and we are told on occasional Friday sermons about the negativities of terrorists...you prove otherwise if you can.
So don't come along thinking you know me just because I challenged your boxed view and of a few others. It still does not change the fact that the West and its policies has blood on its hands. It still does not change the fact that for me and many many thousands of Muslims, no millions of Muslims, I.S does not belong to Islam regardless of how hard you want Muslims to take responsibility for them.
They attach themselves to the new common enemy of the world, that is Islam. It does not mean Islam attaches itself to them.
Ohh and if Islam preached hatred then your ****ed pal, because 1.7 billion people are Muslim in this world. If we all thought I.S and what they preach is Islam..then the rest of the world would be annihilated.
So to you be your way and me be mine
How hmmm interesting, the "Muslim" is the rational one. fancy that.
Who'd have thunk it. 
I never professed to know you lad, and if you'd have bothered to read what I actually said, I never said nor intimated that these extremists represent the views of the average moderate Muslim living in the west.Let me tell you something, you don't know me at all.
But so that you do, I am also a Muslim. I just had my daily life to live..you know..my integrated lifestyle. Went shopping with my family, managed to walk around shopping malls without killing anybody. Managed to mind my own business and didn't preach hatred. Managed to socialise with a few of my friends who happen to be white Brits etc etc...then came home along the M62 without feeling the need to break any laws.
That's why I didn't challenge you after my last post this afternoon not because I had nothing to say
Ohh and I managed to sit at a the table in a restaurant,my little boy got a few aww's from a white couple sat next to us...I managed to not blow them up.
I was born in Britain, I have no more of a reason to integrate like I have to put effort in, than any other person.
I attend mosque and we are told on occasional Friday sermons about the negativities of terrorists...you prove otherwise if you can.
So don't come along thinking you know me just because I challenged your boxed view and of a few others. It still does not change the fact that the West and its policies has blood on its hands. It still does not change the fact that for me and many many thousands of Muslims, no millions of Muslims, I.S does not belong to Islam regardless of how hard you want Muslims to take responsibility for them.
They attach themselves to the new common enemy of the world, that is Islam. It does not mean Islam attaches itself to them.
Ohh and if Islam preached hatred then your ****ed pal, because 1.7 billion people are Muslim in this world. If we all thought I.S and what they preach is Islam..then the rest of the world would be annihilated.
So to you be your way and me be mine
It was you that stated that they have no connection to Islam, which is patently bollocks.
There's an element within the Muslim community that do preach hate, it might not have touched your life or even your community, but to deny its existence is delusional
I remember Tobes getting outraged because he thought I'd tarred all bankers and politicains with the same brush.. this is just too tragic to be funny, 
Tell me more about the Hollywood jihadi John videos mate..I remember Tobes getting outraged because he thought I'd tarred all bankers and politicains with the same brush.. this is just too tragic to be funny,
Clown
Tobes you're like a jaded Boston cop hanging on for his pension. Retire already. Daily Mail is >> that away
Oh dear.
So despite me telling your exactly where you contradicted yourself, you've still chosen to come back and try and make out that it's my error in challenging the mighty dept head
I'll spell it out for you then soft bollocks
"we stared off talking about the responsibility of the wider Muslim community to do more but now we're talking about the 1% who want to blow the world up"
But they're not Muslims are they? They don't have any tie to the religion do they? It's nothing to do with Islam?
As I said, you're welcome.
Are you really that stupid? Are you incapable of differentiating between the perceived political grievances of muslims from their religion of Islam? What you've just quoted is the former not the latter.
Oh and by the way what I pulled you up on was your claim that having Islamic in the title of ISIS meant it was representative of the religion. It was an idiotic statement. I put you in your place by stating British is in the title of the BNP but doesnt represent British people... and you had no comeback
And as I said, your ignorance and prejudices make you incapable of understanding what is being discussed. And as I said, you proved once again that basic comprehension is a distant way off
Let me tell you something, you don't know me at all.
But so that you do, I am also a Muslim. I just had my daily life to live..you know..my integrated lifestyle. Went shopping with my family, managed to walk around shopping malls without killing anybody. Managed to mind my own business and didn't preach hatred. Managed to socialise with a few of my friends who happen to be white Brits etc etc...then came home along the M62 without feeling the need to break any laws.
That's why I didn't challenge you after my last post this afternoon not because I had nothing to say
Ohh and I managed to sit at a the table in a restaurant,my little boy got a few aww's from a white couple sat next to us...I managed to not blow them up.
I was born in Britain, I have no more of a reason to integrate like I have to put effort in, than any other person.
I attend mosque and we are told on occasional Friday sermons about the negativities of terrorists...you prove otherwise if you can.
So don't come along thinking you know me just because I challenged your boxed view and of a few others. It still does not change the fact that the West and its policies has blood on its hands. It still does not change the fact that for me and many many thousands of Muslims, no millions of Muslims, I.S does not belong to Islam regardless of how hard you want Muslims to take responsibility for them.
They attach themselves to the new common enemy of the world, that is Islam. It does not mean Islam attaches itself to them.
Ohh and if Islam preached hatred then your ****ed pal, because 1.7 billion people are Muslim in this world. If we all thought I.S and what they preach is Islam..then the rest of the world would be annihilated.
So to you be your way and me be mine
You're wasting your time mate. He's just too ignorant to understand. You could give yourself (and millions like you) as an example but he'll remain fixated by the alternate reality he reads in The Sun bcos he needs to hate. And that hate is patently obvious in his posts.
If the 1% that you stated don't have a connection with Islam then how are they connected to the Muslim community?Are you really that stupid? Are you incapable of differentiating between the perceived political grievances of muslims from their religion of Islam? What you've just quoted is the former not the latter.
Oh and by the way what I pulled you up on was your claim that having Islamic in the title of ISIS meant it was representative of the religion. It was an idiotic statement. I put you in your place by stating British is in the title of the BNP but doesnt represent British people... and you had no comeback
And as I said, your ignorance and prejudices make you incapable of understanding what is being discussed. And as I said, you proved once again that basic comprehension is a distant way off
It's taken you an age to come back with that attempt to escape via semantics, it's a massive fail I'm afraid
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Keep kidding your self on that you're some sort of superior in any way, shape or form to me pal, if it makes you feel better about your humdrum existence
Ah so you really are that stupid. Now I understand why this whole topic is beyond you. You cant see the difference between muslims feeling political grievance and crossing that line into terrorism, OR Islam the religion instructing them to do it. What Spurlock is saying is the latter is not true. Something which anyone on here can understand (even if they may disagree with it). You on the other hand havent got the foggiest so pulled up my post incorrectly and look like a right tit for it.
At no point in my post did I say islam was responsible for them being terrorists. Muslims/arabs can turn to terrorism due to feelings of persecution without it being anything to do with Islam. It's like saying black ppl rioted in Brixton bcos they were black
And you still skirted around tge actual point of the British in BNP. Still no comeback eh?
Your bile filled posts make me smile mate. You're typical of any ignorant bigot Tobes. Shame as these sorts of debates really show a nasty streak in you.
Where did I say that mainstream Islam instructed them to do it? In your own time...Ah so you really are that stupid. Now I understand why this whole topic is beyond you. You cant see the difference between muslims feeling political grievance and crossing that line into terrorism, OR Islam the religion instructing them to do it. What Spurlock is saying is the latter is not true. Something which anyone on here can understand (even if they may disagree with it). You on the other hand havent got the foggiest so pulled up my post incorrectly and look like a right tit for it.
At no point in my post did I say islam was responsible for them being terrorists. Muslims/arabs can turn to terrorism due to feelings of persecution without it being anything to do with Islam. It's like saying black ppl rioted in Brixton bcos they were black
And you still skirted around tge actual point of the British in BNP. Still no comeback eh?
If you'd have bothered to have actually taken in what was being said, as opposed to trying to put words in peoples mouths, in your desire to come across as uber PC. You'd have realised that at no point did I say that mainstream Islam was to blame for the beliefs that drive the kind these terrorists.
What I did say, was that they have been radicalised by those at the extremities of the Islam spectrum. What other terrorist activists over the years have had so many prepared to carry out suicide bombings?
I can imagine the conversation within the EDL that you're so eager to try and create a ****e comparisons with,
" So Keith, here's the plan, you're going to strap 2 kilos of Semtex to you and wander into a shopping centre and let it rip"
"But I'll die Frank"
"No worries lad, you'll be rewarded on the other side with 15 virgins pal"
"Well why didn't you say fella, pass me the backpack"
What these extremists have been lead to believe isn't rational and doesn't form part of the way the vast majority of the Muslim world sees in the Quran, but your insistence that it's not related to Islam in any way at all, is idiotic beyond belief.
As they're carrying out these acts based on religious indoctrination, by the MINORITY who read the Quran and see that holy war is justified.
So far on this thread, you've called me a bigot and a racist.
I've let it slide to this point, but enough's enough.
Idiots like you chuck those kind of lazy accusations out there, when people challenge the PC ****e that you churn out.
I've not come across many on this forum that I have a genuine issue with, most are just sparring partners, and I know we'd be able to have a laugh over a pint. You however, are a ****.
If someone came on here and said that Elvis is alive and living in a campervan on the moon with Lord Lucan, would you feel the need to present a comprehensive rebuttal? Some things are just so daft it's a waste of time even trying.He has had "meltdowns" on some subjects (and admitted it afterwards), but on the whole just puts stuff out there and waits for rebuttal
The debunking of absurd conspiracy theories is carried out in the real world by people who actually know what they're talking about.
The problem with the internet is that it lends a spurious legitimacy to material that would otherwise just be laughed at by anyone with any knowledge on the given subject.