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Running For Their Lives From Concert Attackers
A woman is filmed dangling from a window of the Bataclan concert hall - where more than 80 died - as others are dragged away.
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Running For Their Lives From Concert Attackers
A woman is filmed dangling from a window of the Bataclan concert hall - where more than 80 died - as others are dragged away.
I know I am a crazy, a conspiracy theorist.But there are reasons I wonder.. No theory here, just again pointing out some odd stuff
I watched the video again, something intersting is seen, anyone can confirm this themselves. Took some screenshots.
Note the car and the ground as the terrorists get out of the car.
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Terrorists getting back to car.
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Spot the difference, shots from same vid.
Note the mark on the road next to the car appeared, this is not a consistent video, something is up
If there is a video without those marks post it, cos everyone I checked has the same thing.
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I also cannot find that street on google street view anywhere near hebdo, if someone could show me that I'd appreciate it and disregard it
When you say mark on the floor do you mean the cross under the car? If so it looks like it's in both pictures to me just the first picture is zoomed slightly in so you can see the line come out from under the car by the number plate but not to the side of the wheel. Afaik the only difference is how zoomed in the picture is, the mark appears to be the same in both.
Summary: what we know so far
MI5 is on high alert amid fears that Isil fanatics are already plotting revenge attacks for the reported killing of Jihadi John in a drone strike in Raqqa, Syria.
The communications of known sympathisers are being monitored closely as surveillance is stepped up to prevent a terrorist outrage in revenge for the operation which is now widely acknowledged to have resulted in the death of Mohammed Emwazi– who as Jihadi John – earned global notoriety.
In a separate development the Telegraph has also disclosed that Jihadi John has fathered a son who is entitled to British citizenship and could be brought to live in the UK..
The identity and nationality of the boy’s mother is not known, but as a British citizen, Emwazi will pass his citizenship onto his child
MI5 is on high alert amid fears that Isil fanatics are already plotting revenge attacks for the reported killing of Jihadi John in a drone strike in Raqqa, Syria.
The communications of known sympathisers are being monitored closely as surveillance is stepped up to prevent a terrorist outrage in revenge for the operation which is now widely acknowledged to have resulted in the death of Mohammed Emwazi– who as Jihadi John – earned global notoriety.
In a separate development the Telegraph has also disclosed that Jihadi John has fathered a son who is entitled to British citizenship and could be brought to live in the UK..
The identity and nationality of the boy’s mother is not known, but as a British citizen, Emwazi will pass his citizenship onto his child
Only a fool would associate a movement that calls its self Islamic state with Islam?
Hahaha whatever you say lad
So you admit your ignorant and your happy to remain so.
Try reading more than just The Sun.
This is like Facebook having a conversation with Wikipedia.
Pipe down you Guardian reading PC twat
Fundamentalist jihadis are fighting in the name of the prophet you clueless tit.
They arent representing the entire Muslim community but they form part of it, and to deny so is ****ing ridiculous
Jihad john, what a ****ing hollywood set up. Video experts said those first videos with john were fakes and that the men were executed off video not on it.
So no one knows if Jihad john A. Exists and B if he did the killing.
That is what a court is for, but if the media and gov say it.. kill him yeah? That's all that is needed, no evidence needs to be presented, no charges, no trial, no conviction.
This is not saying anyne is innocent of anything, I am just pointing out that "proof" people so often talk about on here seem to not realy be important when they are told something by the media and government. talk about cognitive fail.
Cameron also killed a 21 year old guy from wales with a drone, again no eveidence charge trial and conviction, no change of reprieve, you are not around to plead your case.
The future of the legal system, government says you are a bad guy, media repeats it, you can be murdered.
Also, they say "we are fairly certain we killed Jihad John" which means they have no idea who they "killed" if they "killed" anyone.
It doesn't matter if they hit some family's house and didn't kill him, why is it ok? Last paragraph of my sig, that's why it is OK
Where was all this faux moral outrage when the US massacred a hospital two ****ing weeks ago killing kids patients and doctors in the only hospital able to provide care for extreme injuries in the region. It was Not targeted by mistake. It was raided for taliban the week before and everyone had the GPS and a big ****ing red cross on top
So no one knows if Jihad john A. Exists and B if he did the killing.
That is what a court is for, but if the media and gov say it.. kill him yeah? That's all that is needed, no evidence needs to be presented, no charges, no trial, no conviction.
This is not saying anyne is innocent of anything, I am just pointing out that "proof" people so often talk about on here seem to not realy be important when they are told something by the media and government. talk about cognitive fail.
Cameron also killed a 21 year old guy from wales with a drone, again no eveidence charge trial and conviction, no change of reprieve, you are not around to plead your case.
The future of the legal system, government says you are a bad guy, media repeats it, you can be murdered.
Also, they say "we are fairly certain we killed Jihad John" which means they have no idea who they "killed" if they "killed" anyone.
It doesn't matter if they hit some family's house and didn't kill him, why is it ok? Last paragraph of my sig, that's why it is OK
Where was all this faux moral outrage when the US massacred a hospital two ****ing weeks ago killing kids patients and doctors in the only hospital able to provide care for extreme injuries in the region. It was Not targeted by mistake. It was raided for taliban the week before and everyone had the GPS and a big ****ing red cross on top
I don't read the guardian
They can fight in the name of the prophet. It does not mean it has anything to do with Islam and its beliefs.
And they may claim to belong to the Islamic community, but you try to ask the normal law abiding, upright Muslim and you will see what they think.
Islam does not condone or even entertain ISIS.
The sooner you accept that. The sooner you an educate yourself to the real issues.
Sanctimonious beautI don't read the guardian
They can fight in the name of the prophet. It does not mean it has anything to do with Islam and its beliefs.
And they may claim to belong to the Islamic community, but you try to ask the normal law abiding, upright Muslim and you will see what they think.
Islam does not condone or even entertain ISIS.
The sooner you accept that. The sooner you an educate yourself to the real issues.
So you accept that they fight in the name of the prophet but still deny they are therefore intrinsicly linked to Islam?
Point out where I said that most mainstream Muslims wouldn't decry them? But some don't, that's a simple fact. The extemist clerics are still preaching their hate in some western mosques amongst our communities, radicalising the impressionable. This is fact lad, I suggest you go educate yourself
I don't think the political connotations are important at this point, the sad death of innocent people is at the forefront of my thinking.
I don't read the guardian
They can fight in the name of the prophet. It does not mean it has anything to do with Islam and its beliefs.
And they may claim to belong to the Islamic community, but you try to ask the normal law abiding, upright Muslim and you will see what they think.
Islam does not condone or even entertain ISIS.
The sooner you accept that. The sooner you an educate yourself to the real issues.
An actual Muslim has issues with your train of thought.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...re-defining-Islam.-We-Muslims-must-react.html
Like here during the troubles when mainstream or "moderates" say nothing or say it too quietly in fear of being "traitors to their faith" they are allowing the extremists to define and voice their version of their religion loudest of all.
I'm sorry but Islam is where Christianity once was...it needs to catch up with the century it now lives in and while I don't expect them to take up arms against the extremists they need to stop them subverting and taking control of their identity.
You can not hide in a community that does not want you.
I don't read the guardian
They can fight in the name of the prophet. It does not mean it has anything to do with Islam and its beliefs.
And they may claim to belong to the Islamic community, but you try to ask the normal law abiding, upright Muslim and you will see what they think.
Islam does not condone or even entertain ISIS.
The sooner you accept that. The sooner you an educate yourself to the real issues.
It's like saying the BNP represents British people because it has British in their title or that the Union flag is theirs bcos they use it as their emblem.
A point clearly lost on @Tobes
Don't worry about it Spurlock the discussion is too high brow for him. It's like trying to argue with Alf Garnett. He cant see past his own racial prejudices. All he'll end up doing is attacking you with cheap jibes like guardian reader or lefty or liberal to reassure himself bcos he has nothing else to say
People associating IS with Islam are no fool. To some extend they have some common ground with Islam, i.e Sharia.
They are not calling themselves Christians or any other religion body. Some well known Islamic Clerics have disassociated themselves with them
while other support them. What do we associate them with then?.
They are not calling themselves Christians or any other religion body. Some well known Islamic Clerics have disassociated themselves with them
while other support them. What do we associate them with then?.
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They are a criminal network pure and simple. The minute you feel the need to associate them with any innocent group of people then you're already creating a them and us situation and alienating people unfairly. What the fck is an average muslim living in his home raising his family going to do to hunt down these terrorists ffs. All they can do is the same as the rest of us, try to educate their kids the best they can. And if they feel aggrieved about something, feel comfortable enough to discuss how to tackle it within the democratic process they live in and the freedoms they enjoy. Simples.
People have been allowed to preach hate for too long in this country. Mad men out on the streets inciting people to destroy the West were not only tolerated but indulged because of their "human rights".
What muslims can do is inform on anyone they believe to be a danger to society.
What a stupid analogy. The BNPs existence is a stain on our society as they also peddle hate, but I don't remember them suicide bombing innocent bystanders.It's like saying the BNP represents British people because it has British in their title or that the Union flag is theirs bcos they use it as their emblem.
A point clearly lost on @Tobes
Don't worry about it Spurlock the discussion is too high brow for him. It's like trying to argue with Alf Garnett. He cant see past his own racial prejudices. All he'll end up doing is attacking you with cheap jibes like guardian reader or lefty or liberal to reassure himself bcos he has nothing else to say
The mere act of a suicide bomber is intrinsicly linked to their religion, as they're sold the idea that post the event they'll be rewarded on the other side.
Too high brow for me? Hahaha, the usual mo from you, some jumped up dept head who thinks the world revolves around his public sector ring piece. You continually try and portray yourself as being intellectually superior, trust me fella, you simply aren't.
your desire to be seen as PC on all subjects is nauseating
IS are the "school bully" of the world at the moment, and as with all bullies it will not be until the decent people stand up to them and defeat them that they will stop.
The fact they use their only misguided interpretation of the Koran to justify what they do, and indoctrinate the less intelligent, does not mean they represent the majority of Muslims.
They also have a tribal element to them as they are all Sunni Muslims.
The West's hands are tied to some extent as if they send in ground troops to destroy them, this will be seen as an invasion of Muslim lands and give IS support in the Muslim community that they will never achieve with their barbaric acts.
It's a complete mess caused by Blair/Bush and USA conglomerates trying to protect their oil interests and carry out regime change in certain countries for their own benefit.
The fact they use their only misguided interpretation of the Koran to justify what they do, and indoctrinate the less intelligent, does not mean they represent the majority of Muslims.
They also have a tribal element to them as they are all Sunni Muslims.
The West's hands are tied to some extent as if they send in ground troops to destroy them, this will be seen as an invasion of Muslim lands and give IS support in the Muslim community that they will never achieve with their barbaric acts.
It's a complete mess caused by Blair/Bush and USA conglomerates trying to protect their oil interests and carry out regime change in certain countries for their own benefit.
Exactly.
This has happened due to the PC brigade driven by beauts like @Treble calling racism at every mention of the fact that the Muslim community has a part to play in eradicating fundamentalism from our own communities