Paris attacked again

Yes, you implied it. The following exchange occured :

1. Me : Why do we value syrian lives less than we do french lives ?
2. You : Because they are in a civil war
3. Me : And that makes their lives worth less than the French ?
4. You : Noone has implied that.

 

It's not in the slightest.

We pride ourselves on equality. Yet :

- when 200 (or thereabouts) French are murdered, it affects the nation causing national revultion and condemnation, front page headlines, rolling news, prime minister and US president giving press conferences.
- when 200 Russians are murdered, David Cameron does a tweet, it makes the papers, bigger story is british holiday makers being stuck in the airport.
- when 200 Syrian soldiers are executed in cold blood in an amphtheatre, it doesnt even make the papers, noone cares.
- when dozens of people die in suicide bombings in Beiruit, it barerly makes the papers, noone cares.
- when a child is beheaded in Afgahanistan, it doesn't make the papers.
- when people are beheaded as a matter of course in ISIS held areas in Syria, noone bats an eyelid.

To me that appears to represent hypocrisy at best.

 

First of all there has been widespread condemnation of whats happening In Syria but Syria is old news now. It is pretty naive of you to think the worlds media is going to continually focus on a conflict thats been on the go for so long.

Secondly. Of course there is an uproar because this happened in a western capital. Why the **** do you think the terrorist targeted Paris? Soft target, lax security, maximum media coverage possibly.

Thirdly. I said your OP was drivel because you moaned about the furore happening about Paris then went on to say that we dont give a **** about "Non English speaking peoples"

Paris is in France me old china and the French happen to be Non English speaking people.

Now go away boy, you bother me.

That's from the Mask btw.

 

I like the frogs.

 

Normans took the place off the Vikings.

 

Your quote is incorrect. I said, "non English speaking, non white people from non first world countries".

People in Paris generally speak English, they are generally white and they are a first world western country.

We are in agreement that far greater outrage is felt about the cold blooded murder of 200 French, than of the 200 Syrians executed last week. I think this is indisputable.

All we disagree on then - aside from the point I have corrected you on above - is the reason for this massive dichotomy of interest.

You have suggested that we don't care about Syrian lives because they have been dieing for years. I don't think this can be right, because there has never been anything like the coverage or feeling over deaths of Syrians, as there has been over the (tragic) French deaths, notwithstanding the grotesque acts carried out there recently by ISis. Furthermore, there was nothing like the same sense of outrage here in response to the shocking murder of 200 Russians a few weeks ago, and certainly their deaths had not been occurring for a prolonged period, so your argument can not apply there.

I reiterate therefore my view, that the reason, or at least part of the reason that we don't care as much about Isis executing Syrians or murdering Russians, as we do about them murdering French people, is that we do not value he lives of Syrians and of Russians as we do of our fellow westernised French.

As stated in my original post, this strikes me as highly hypocritical bearing in mind how much we pride ourselves in our principles of equal rights et c that we hold so dear.

Whilst we might be good at not calling each other slang names, we don't seem to be so good when it comes to valuing the lives of our fellow man so evenly.

And that's true whether you think Parisiennes speak English or not.

 

Please god bring back all those who died yesterday. Amen.


#prayforparis

 

Folk on Facebook changing profile pic to French flag , posting pics of lighting candles ...

**** off

 

France beat England (and every **** else) in 1066. We spent most of the next millennium kicking **** out of them, before liberating their country in 1944. That's makes us about even, I'd say.

 

nothing like a good social media moping session.

#prayforparis

 

I already explained that to you when you asked:

Where in the above statement did I imply Syrian lives are of less worth than anyone else?

You should try and read what people say before accusing them of stuff you just made up.

 

I hope the hydro changes it lights to red white and blue in support of Paris

#prayforparis

 

MY FB page seems to be full of people talking about false flags. I think I may have unwittingly befriended Eddie on FB.

 

Or you have lots of fervent Unionist pals from Norn Ireland.

 

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****ing Glasgow. Liverpool of the North

 

#JeSuisCluthaVaults

 

You provided that in the same post.

So in full the sequence was :

1. Me : Why do we value Syrian lives less than we do French lives ?
2. You : Because they are in a civil war.
3. Me : And that makes their lives worth less than French lives ?
4 You : no one has implied that.......(and) a second attempt at answering the original question in point 1)(changing your mind from your first attempt, in point 2).
5. Me : Yes, you implied it (in 2 above)
6. You : no, I gave the answer in 4 above, so somehow my answer in 2 above that you replied to (in 3) magically ceases to exist, and I will pretend to try to win this argument I've picked, by arguing that in 3, you were actually replying to the revised answer I hadn't given yet (the revised answer 4) and because your comment wrongly interpreted the revised answer I hadn't given yet (because my comment was validly responding to the original answer you gave in 2 which you now seem to pretend doesn't exist), you were wrong, and I was right all along.


You have a very 'interesting' style of debating Dev. Some might call it the bullshit style.

 

And you are quote mining to imply what you choose.

Put simply, do I strike you as the type of person who gives 2 ****s whether one life is of more value than another?

I don't, a life lost is sad whatever the nationality, you on the other hand want to criticise the west for placing French lives lost over that of Syrians.

I'll spell out exactly what I said because you seem to be hard of understanding, a huge terrorist attack in Paris is more newsworthy than a huge terrorist attack in Syria/Iraq/Afghanistan.

Do you disagree?

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-34823466

equaliser.