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Pardew in or out?

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Boa, Apr 20, 2013.

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  1. Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb!

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    Well if Pardew was to go, I suppose we could do a lot worse than Benitez... So many rumours, what we need are facts!
     
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  2. Joelinton's Right Foot

    Joelinton's Right Foot Worth Every Penny

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    I understand what you're saying in terms of league position. We've had a shocker this year (domestically) and dropped a long way, but chopping and changing managers also affects the prospects we (hopefully) have lined up for the transfer window, how much we want current players, etc. I know this isn't always a bad thing but I'd like us to stop going back to square one and advance a bit and let a squad develop over time.
     
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  3. Boa

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    No in my opinion it's a load of rubbish! the fact is if you have a good manager they earn stability by getting result and being consistant for long periods. Like I've posted in another thread most of footballing talk is nonsense like experience and players understanding the clubs etc - YOU NEED GOOD PLAYERS AND A MANAGER THAT GET THE BEST OUT OF THEM.
     
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  4. Boa

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    I can understand peoples fears but the fact is we always replace one vegetable with another and once day we might just find a diamond.
     
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  5. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    So with this reasoning you'd have sacked Moyes and SAF in their struggling seasons early doors?
     
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  6. Obi Wan

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    But if Man U had thought that all those years ago, where might they be now? Even Fergie needed time. As Constrictor and ITHTK have said, give a manager some time. The transfer dealings have been good over the last 2 years, but still need time to gel together. I know where you're coming from, but constantly changing manager won't help. <ok>
     
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  7. Boa

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    No they turned it around and have never looked back

    Pardew is the opposite he's like cocaine he takes you high and them you're life falls apart little by little and you never recover.

    Honestly the man is never ever going to turn things around

    In a year remember I've said this though mate.
     
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  8. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Do a bit of research, they had much longer stickier spells than Pardew. They turned it round because they were given time to.
     
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  9. Rafa's Championship Party

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    He knows his facts very well.
     
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  10. Boa

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    what an entire life? Pardews history speaks for itself if you ask me.

    I can see what you're saying, however I really think people need to start increasing the amounts on omega 3 in their diets if they really believe the future will ever be any better with this man.

    Ask yourself


    do you really think he has it? really?

    This is my main concern because we clearly think he does which for me is bewildering given his subs, choices, tone of voice and history.

    It's like the devils work for me.
     
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  11. Obi Wan

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    I like the new Boa. Better than telling everyone to eat your arse. <laugh> <ok>
     
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  12. AthertonStreet

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    The first half we were cracking. There was a lot of energy and a lot of chances much like last year. But because of the lack of confidence due to the relegation scrap we sat back in the second half and let them back in the game. Whereas last year we would have closed the game out, today we were nervous and I understand why. I think everyone will agree this season has been poor but for a lot of the season we had no settled team and had to rely on the likes of williamson, sammy ameobi,shola ameobi, obertan, tavernier and bigrimina. They aren't premiership quality ( Bigi will be) and its no wonder we struggled with tactics. I'd say give Pardew another season and hope a few more players are brought in and injuries treat us nicely. I think thats the only way to see how good of a manager he is. He's done well before, no reason why he can't again.
     
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  13. Obi Wan

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    Good post. You should join in more! <ok>
     
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  14. Darth Plagueis

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    Here's why he needs to go -

    He can get a side up for a game, but he lacks the tactical awareness to get his team out of a sticky situation, turn around a game against a solid defensive side, and close out a game that we're hanging on to.

    He doesn't fail every time, but the way he sets his team up to play is ridiculously predictable.

    Whenever we're chasing a result we bring on Shola, lump long balls to him and hope that works. Or we hope we can find Cisse in a pocket of space.

    When we're winning, and trying to defend a result, the team looks like it has absolutely no idea what to do. We do not know how to close out a game with proper organisation and tactics. All the players do is just try to throw themselves in front of things or lob the ball 60 yards up the pitch to Shola who heads the ball to nowhere for an opposition player to pick up.

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    Pardew's ability to build a team worked for a while, we got results due to quality of the players, and the players being able to link up as a team. But if things don't quite go our way and the team isn't able to cut through the opposition, then Pardew has absolutely no ****ing idea what to do. He doesn't know what tactical decisions to make, he just hopes Ben Arfa can skin 5 players and score, or Shola flicks a ball on that hopefully lands to a player in a good position.

    The way he's approached a lot of games this season is attack attack attack and score goals, and hopefully that will be enough to win games. But it hasn't gone our way this season, and we've needed more from Pardew in terms of tactics.
     
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  15. xtal

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    it's been a tricky season, loads (****ing loads!!!) of injuries, lots of new signings, loosing Ba and playing in Europe. Defiantly deserves another season with us.
     
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  16. Albert's Chip Shop

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    This.
    Do you like rep?
     
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  17. Obi Wan

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    I'm willing to give it a try.
     
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  18. Graham Carr's Binoculars

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    Haven't been on in ages (long story) but I voted for Pardew to go but not until the summer.

    Never been a big fan of his and said I doubted him very early this season...I get the reasoning behind people wanting stability and voting him to stay, but take last season out of this equation and would you still be wanting Pardew to remain in charge?

    For me we have gradually declined all season in terms of performance, a few games in January aside. Pardew's latest press conference in which he tried mocking Sunderland regarding they could only dream of being in Europe was embarrassing, he shouldn't even be mentioning them in his press conferences unless we are due to play them.

    And then he went on to say he'll address the set pieces in the summer??! He told us he was going to do that the summer just gone. He's playing the same players, in the same formation and it isn't working. As a famous man once said "only a fool will try the same thing twice and expect different results". Well in Pardew's case he's tried the same formation/team 10-15 games and it just isn't working.

    As for a replacement i'd want someone committed to a high pressing, high tempo passing game. AVB would be great (never going to happen in a million years) so I'd go for Poyet or Martinez. Both are very confident in their beliefs about how the game should be played and don't venture from that style even when confidence/results do dip. If I had to pick one or the other I'd go for Poyet because I think he comes across as slightly more ambitious/driven than Martinez.

    I get why people would give Pardew another season, I just don't particularly agree with it. For what it's worth though I don't believe he'll lose his job. MA & DL announced when he signed his 8 year deal that he "was allowed to have one bad season".
     
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  19. Obi Wan

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    Good to see you posting again Sir Bobby <ok>
     
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  20. Albert's Chip Shop

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    And me
     
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