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Acun tries to please the fans and has got most of the off field decisions correct. Ehab treated the fans with disdain, like they were an annoying part of owning a club.

While they will always remain a million miles apart in my eyes. Acun’s football decisions undermine his work and could go on to ruin his legacy.
 
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willyfog said:
Acun tries to please the fans and has got most of the off field decisions correct. Ehab treated the fans with disdain, like they were an annoying part of owning a club.

While they will always remain a million miles apart in my eyes. Acun’s football decisions undermine his work and could go on to ruin his legacy.
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to the Allam's it was only a business to make money from, whether that was being given the stadium, name change, ticket prices, everything, money, money, money. they didn't really like football and if the fans didn't like what they were doing then they could **** off - on the other hand Acun genuinely loves football and to some extent, maybe to a major extent, the club is an expensive play thing, he loves football and i believe he loves the fans / they're important to him - personally I think he gets a lot of grief unnecessarily - maybe some of the decisions haven't worked out, maybe he's been badly advised - Allam only ever made decisions for himself, I think Acun makes decisions that he believes will benefit the club - maybe I'm wearing beer goggles / rose tinted spectacles but we could do a lot worse than having Acun own the club
 
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He’s got footballing decisions wrong. A lot of them. I’m not going to crucify him for that, they’re superficial really. So long as he doesn’t leave the club in administration, we will only find that out when the time comes for him to leave.

Hopefully he starts to learn from his mistakes, appoints a proper manager and lets him manage the club, instead of chopping and changing the whole playing and coaching staff every year and gambling on random wildcard managers. A lot of time and money has surely been wasted but it’s his money so fairy ****s and all that.

Let’s see what the future brings.
 
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to the Allam's it was only a business to make money from, whether that was being given the stadium, name change, ticket prices, everything, money, money, money. they didn't really like football and if the fans didn't like what they were doing then they could **** off - on the other hand Acun genuinely loves football and to some extent, maybe to a major extent, the club is an expensive play thing, he loves football and i believe he loves the fans / they're important to him - personally I think he gets a lot of grief unnecessarily - maybe some of the decisions haven't worked out, maybe he's been badly advised - Allam only ever made decisions for himself, I think Acun makes decisions that he believes will benefit the club - maybe I'm wearing beer goggles / rose tinted spectacles but we could do a lot worse than having Acun own the club
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No idea about Acun's motivations and all my info comes from here, but i know someone who worked closely with Assam Allam and he claims that the initial motivation for buying the club was supposedly a genuine 'gift' to the city, and as costs spiralled/were unveiled, there was an attempt to develop a business model and investment process that would make the club self-sustaining/less costly.

The issues with the council and name change were not foreseen or understood (rightly or wrongly) and it was then that the business model changed, first to sell the club as a Premier League one for the right price, and then to reduce the outgoings and sell the club as one with lower costs - the first relegation from the PL with Bruce was a spanner in the works for the first plan as there was a potential sale to a foreign buyer lined up, hence Ehab's disdain/disrespect towards SB.
 
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Amin Yapusi said:
He’s got footballing decisions wrong. A lot of them. I’m not going to crucify him for that, they’re superficial really. So long as he doesn’t leave the club in administration, we will only find that out when the time comes for him to leave.

Hopefully he starts to learn from his mistakes, appoints a proper manager and lets him manage the club, instead of chopping and changing the whole playing and coaching staff every year and gambling on random wildcard managers. A lot of time and money has surely been wasted but it’s his money so fairy ****s and all that.

Let’s see what the future brings.
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I'm often amazed by your ability to start out mid-season throwing out a bit of bait as a bit of a troll comment, then gradually repeating it more and more often when people don't react to it, to the point you convince yourself that your bait was actually a genuine, factual opinion and that Ruben Selles was a wildcard appointment and not a proper manager. I can never understand who's really being trolled, us or you.
 
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I'm often amazed by your ability to start out mid-season throwing out a bit of bait as a bit of a troll comment, then gradually repeating it more and more often when people don't react to it, to the point you convince yourself that your bait was actually a genuine, factual opinion and that Ruben Selles was a wildcard appointment and not a proper manager. I can never understand who's really being trolled, us or you.
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Selles is ****e, he’s got no track record, no life of experience in the game. He’s got a sports degree or something, can do the job on paper and manage out of a book. Like all the graduates coming through in all industries who haven’t a ****ing clue how to actually do the jobs they spent thousands on a degree supposedly learning.

This much will be clear to everyone once he’s sacked some time next season after we inevitably continue to be ****e.

If anyone’s being trolled it’s you convincing yourself that it’s going to get better with just a bit more time.
 
Amin Yapusi said:
Selles is ****e, he’s got no track record, no life of experience in the game. He’s got a sports degree or something, can do the job on paper and manage out of a book. Like all the graduates coming through in all industries who haven’t a ****ing clue how to actually do the jobs they spent thousands on a degree supposedly learning.

This much will be clear to everyone once he’s sacked some time next season after we inevitably continue to be ****e.

If anyone’s being trolled it’s you convincing yourself that it’s going to get better with just a bit more time.
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I heard he refused to play Harry Vaughan cos he asked him if he could get them some Tiger striped paint for the dressing room
 
The highs and lows under Allam were wider apart, over 3 divisions. We haven't experienced promotion or relegation, or much really in the same division, under Acun yet.
 
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