Our right to peaceful protest ...

On their bikes with their rubber tyres !!

 

Normal conversation has become a platform for 'know alls' to correct you, often sanctimoniously.

If a person is enabled that means they've become more capable of doing something ...

... but you're jumped on if you say someone is disabled because they can't walk.

If a tank has its tracks blown off you'd say it had been disabled, if i say 'disabled' about a person I'm not being spiteful or vindictive, just saying what I see.

I often talk to disabled people but do so like I'd talk to anyone else. Showing respect and empathy is more to do with how you talk to people not being au fait with the latest terminology imo.

 

I know the thread was about peaceful protest but trans were also mentioned. This sorts it imo.

 

It took a lot of balls for me to go on the Channel 4 show ”Embarrassing Bodies”.
Three actually.

Sorry wrong thread.

 

Might be slightly off topic. I have very recently started to coach disability football. It is magic. I speak to them and treat them like anybody I meet. They treat me the same way. They ask questions if they dont understand, they try their best, they laugh and smile. They take the mick out of my Vaux bobble hat, now I have told them what it is. I take the mick out of their pink boots and derby county tops. It is all brilliant fun to be honest. I have not had a moments grief from any parent, any player, or any observer. I am just being me and treating them like kids who love football.

 

Well said mate.

My first question to anyone in a wheelchair is always 'Was this an accident or summat from birth mate?'

Whatever the response my next comment is 'What a bummer.'

Pretending someone isn't in a wheelchair is idiotic imo, it's the first thing you notice ffs ...

... once you acknowledge someone has a problem you can talk normally.

If you don't it's as fake as can be.

 

This is the undeniable and unassailable nub of the matter.

It is measurably self evident and it is the reason why these unthinking zealots are roaming about campuses and elsewhere with cheap glue and defaced tea towels ; a debate would expose their ideas -to which they are fully entitled - to scrutiny, fact, other ideas and examination.

So many of them appear to be so under developed, so childishly unable to discuss an idea with someone who disagrees with them that they appear almost lost in some sort of mind fog. What my old mam would have called " a bit wanting".

Universities in my youth , (I didn't go but I spent a lot if time in the buildings as it were, and among those who did) were crucibles of argument, conflicting views, new ideas, old ideas and most of all, an unwillingness to be led by the nose into chanting any establishment orthodoxy.

Now they appear to be stamping out legions of young people who think the same on everything. This can't be true of course, but for even the impression to be there, something has went very seriously wrong.


And just the £9k a year for your media studies degree if you don't mind.

 

Fads.

We had fads when we were teenagers.

We had phases when we earnestly believed in all kinds of daft things but they passed and we grew up ...

... these days teenagers are praised and encouraged to change from being a man to a woman, having their knob chopped off and taking powerful drugs to grow a hefty pair of knockers.

My biggest fad was wearing daft clothes and going to see The Damned or Siouxsie and the Banshees ...

.... I still have the LPs and great memories but my penis and testicles remain intact

 

Not what I heard

 

Mrs Smug been talking?

Yeah OK, I don’t have all the LPs, you've got me there.

 

She didn’t say they jumped too often

 

Quite. And they were YOUR fads. I had similar, Led Zeppelin and the like for me.

But I didn't insist the world agreed with me, and nor will you have done.

A lot of shady people behind the scenes making money out of this horror story.

 

A question l would like to know as well. News reporters never ask the simple and obvious questions.

 

Off the original topic , but I would like to see the inconvenienced public find where they live and then next day get together to prevent them from going about their daily lives.

 

While 'Protests' have rarely, if ever, been peaceful, they seem to have turned to intentionaly violent, of late.
From Wat Tyler, and The Peasants Revolt, to Picket Lines that deny entry to anyone who disagrees, there has always been an element of potential, or real, violence.
But the current protesters seem to be chalenging Society.

The Law seem unable to deal with them.
So, what is the answer.

Perhaps allowing The Public to 'confront' any unauthorised protest, that is causing a public nusience?
Istead of arresting Motorists for trying to remove people sitting in the Road, allow them to do it.
Anyone blocking YOUR right to get to or do some thing legal, give them the right to shift them.

OTT ?
Yes of course it is.
But it has been tried before. Relatively recently when The Police and Politicians asktedThe Public to support them and
HAVE A GO.
Some of you will remember this short lived campaign,
Imagine if those affected by these clowns were allowed to drag them off the roads, onto the pavements, cover them in their own orange powder, and leave them splutttering.

Can you imagine how much this would lift the spirits of the motorists who had been held up.?

I am of course living in fantasy land, with my tongue held firmly in my cheek.

But just HOW does society control these self rightous pompous berks?

 

There's a fine line between reasonable/unreasonable protests which is what these people are taking advantage of. The problem is that we, the public, start to demand greater police powers and action, etc, which may restrict us all in the future.

And that's the point of this thread tbh, people demanding their voices are heard are actually making things more draconian.

 

This is the best thread I have read in quite a while. Sensible people giving their opinions without being shouted down. 10/10 folks.

 

What happened to the offence of “ obstructing the public highway”? Does it still exist , or is it only if you do it with a vehicle?
If I am held by someone in a room against my will for an unknown period of time - kidnap ? So , if I’m held in the road , unable to drive forward , or turn round ,held to that spot indefinitely against my wishes - I consider that to also be “ kidnap”. It would never hold as I understand the kidnap laws to be very ambiguous and confusing and under long term review

 

I like this thought.

If it's your right to block my way then surely it's my right to move you the **** out of it

 

I would like to reverse up to them, then just sit there, revving my 2.0ltr diesel.

Public highway, don't think it could be classed as an offence.