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[notDistantGreen]

Greybull is a private equity investor which specialises in attempting to turn around struggling UK companies. Like a leading surgeon who takes only the hardest cases, it naturally has a higher failure rate than a conventional fund. When it does succeed, no doubt it makes a lot of money, and good luck to them, risk and reward Plym, that's all.

British Steel and indeed British steel generally have indeed been very sick for years but two things have pushed it under now rather than earlier are both Brexit related.

Firstly, loss of European customers who are not placing orders that will bear tariffs in the case of a hard Brexit. They won't be the last group to do that, believe me.

Secondly, the need to pay carbon trading costs under the EU Emissions Trading System at a time when their their income has been slashed by lost European sales. Although this has pushed them under, EU ETS in my opinion is an excellent environmental scheme that rewards low carbon firms and penalises high carbon ones. I'm far from a committed environmentalist but it's a good example of what 28 countries can do acting together that one can't and that goes straight for the big polluters rather than messing about with plastic straws and cow farts.

The world is indeed a hard place .......... but we're going to all those brilliant trade agreements with places just like China, Indonesia, India and Brasil aren't we? Aren't we?

 

[sensiblegreeny]

Can these election things get any worse than the last few? We've had Brexit, Trump and now fecking Boris appears to be favourite for the next PM job. Surely people can't continue to be that stupid...............or can they? Having seen the picture list of the suspected candidates for the job I can see where they got the idea for the Muppets from. What a motley bunch.

 

[Plymborn]

At least Nigel Farage hasn't joined the Conservative Party.....he'd wipe the floor with that lot of goons.

 

[notDistantGreen]

We're right in the sh1t now.

All of the likely front running candidates to replace May are Brexiteers. The EU might have given ground on the existing draft agreement towards a softer Brexit if a cross party-consensus in Parliament asked for it but it isn't going to give an inch in the direction of a hard but negotiated Brexit in which the UK thinks it can go back to cherry-picking which bits of the EU it wants and which it doesn't. This means a lemming-like no-deal exit is highly likely, which will decimate the UK economy and jobs for at least a generation, if not several.

 

[Plymborn]

The majority have candidates have to be notDistant......we've seen how a remainer has sunk the country into a cesspit of despair with her idea of Brexit....the EU couldn't believe their luck and led the negotiations the way that they wanted it to go....bordering on an act of treason what Theresa May brought back from Brussels.....if only we had stood our ground from the start....the post of Brexit Secretary didn't really exist.....the grey suits of the civil service led the negotiations....David Davis was Mr Brexit by name only.....far too laid back and side lined.....and he was supposed to be a Brexiteer......Dominic Raab caught on earlier and resigned.....the latest one realized he was the tea boy only.......and the end result so far means the rise of Nigel Farage.... and with Ann Widdicombe they have got together......she might not be very good at dancing....but as a debater and a woman of common sense she is big time.....the EU election results on Monday will elect them both.....and the those gnomes in Brussels will be shaking their heads in disbelief.....and maybe let us go on more favourable terms.

 

[Plymborn]

Off to Wembley tomorrow to see how the other half live....38,225 Addicks going.... plus me.....will be a good day out......the result of Charlton winning would be nice for my son and grandson.....better than Sunderland winning.....not so nerve racking for me than the last time Argyle went.....although this relegation I felt was worse....because it never should have happened from 12th in March.

 

[Plymborn]

Newport County and Tranmere go into extra time locked at 0-0....the loser will be playing us next season.

 

[hp_bedoboy]

At least Newport not too far to travel.

 

[Plymborn]

So Newport on our play list.....Newport...0-1...Tranmere...AET.

 

[AWAY IN BC]

So Newport on our play list.....Newport...0-1...Tranmere...AET.

Any news on the new Manager Plym ?

 

[Plymborn]

Any news on the new Manager Plym ?

No.

 

[sensiblegreeny]

So can you tell me what was in May's negotiated deal? By that I mean the details of it of course. What was treasonous and what were we giving away?

 

[Wooperts_duck]

Off to Wembley tomorrow to see how the other half live....38,225 Addicks going.... plus me.....will be a good day out......the result of Charlton winning would be nice for my son and grandson.....better than Sunderland winning.....not so nerve racking for me than the last time Argyle went.....although this relegation I felt was worse....because it never should have happened from 12th in March.

Enjoy the day out Plymborn, and I do hope Charlton win. They deserve to, as they are the better footballing team by far

 

[hp_bedoboy]

Come on Charlton!.....my mate from here has gone too.

 

[Plymborn]

So can you tell me what was in May's negotiated deal? By that I mean the details of it of course. What was treasonous and what were we giving away?

It was a half-way house....and as we've witnessed it found no favour with remainers or leavers....that's all I need to know.

 

[notDistantGreen]

Anyone who thinks we can lay down the law to 27 other countries controlling a market of 400m people is an idiot. Any politician who tells you we can is a liar. Ditto on both counts the idea that we are easily going to be able to do favourable trade deals with the major economies in the wider world, most of who are in trade blocs of their own.

It's noted in the paper today that Boris Johnson not only got paid £25k for his recent speech in Switzerland arguing that a no deal exit was acceptable (this on top of £150k for his 2 preceding speeches, so much for the common man), but that Switzerland has itself dozens of trade deals in place with the EU, so they aren't quite the model of splendid Alpine isolation that you might think.

 

[notDistantGreen]

By the way, while we're on the subject of posh boys deluding the general public, not only have Farage's living costs been covered by Putin's mate Aaaron Banks to the tune of £450k, his Brexit Party is being funded by very large numbers of PayPal receipts, each falling just below the amount requiring the "party" to determine and record the identity of the donor.

You're being played as a sucker Plym by a bunch of fraudsters, liars and philanderers who care nothing about the ordinary man, except for his vote, and who can happily stay rich even after the UK is ruined.

 

[sensiblegreeny]

So the truth is you actually don't really know anything apart from others have moaned. What then is treasonous? That's the problem with all of this. Hardly anyone actually knows what the feck the MPs are on about and what most of the stuff means to us as a nation. Ignorance is no excuse to pursue something blindly and claim some sort of victory. Even half of the people who are supposed to kw what is going on probably don't but don't want to admit it. That would be the MPs by the way. The same applied to the original vote. No information of any use was given to anyone and people were expected to vote on the biggest thing in their lifetime. I ask the same question of anyone who tells me I'm just a sore loser. Give me 5 things leaving the EU will achieve. Apart from Immigration I haven't really heard anything else. You leavers have a victory in ignorance only.

 

[Plymborn]

Just back from Wembley....76,000 supporters all dressed in red......the game was terrible....OG against Charlton in 4 mins....back pass just trickled into the far corner with the keeper desperately scrambling for it....it went very quiet down the Charlton end....but Purrington equalized before half-time and Bauer got the winner in the 94 minute....when we all thought we were going to be subjected to another 30 mins of over-time......now back to the realities of Div2....sigh.

 

[Plymborn]

Having watched the grandstand build on Cams 1, 2, 3. developing....especially the pre-cast concrete steps I was drawn to how the banking was built at Wembley behind the goals.....all of it was metal sheeting....and when Charlton scored the winner in injury time with thousands of...' bouncing'...fans it was rather alarmingly more like a trampoline and you could see it flexing with the weight and movement of so many fans.

We where directly behind the goal (were Charlton scored) about 15 rows up....and of course no one sat down from start to finish....thousands of unused seating....there were stewards around but no attempt to tell anyone to sit down......of course the question is how do you tell a fan who has had a few 'jars' before the match that he is breaking ..'health and safety'...rules and that he should be sitting down.....nearly all the workers around the stadium seemed to be of an Asian background and I doubt if any wanted that responsibility anyway.