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  1. Plymborn

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    HAMAS CHIEF....DEAD CIVILIANS ARE "NECESSARY SACRIFICE".

    The man behind the Hamas Oct 7th attacks is stalling ceasefire talks and using the mounting Palestinian death toll to his advantage....leaked messages show.

    Correspondence between Yahya Sinwar...the military leader of the terror group...and officials tasked with brokering a ceasefire with Qatari and Egyptian officials indicate he is more interested in securing his own future than peace.

    "We have the Israelis right where we want them ".....Sinwar said in one of dozens of messages obtained by the ....Wall Street Journal.

    The messages display a calculated disregard for life and a belief on the part of Sinwar that Israel has more to lose from the eight month war than Hamas.....More than 37,000 people mainly civilians have been killed in Gaza since the start of the war.....According to the Hamas-controlled health authority.

    Article continues.....Daily Telegraph...Wednesday...12/06/2024.
     
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    PR is the way ahead....first past the post is only done in two European countries so it seems.

    Out of the seven.....Labour and the Tories didn't do well.....two weren't UK covering parties....two others where insignificant.....and Reform came second in one poll pushing the Tories into third spot.....a lot of leading Tory MP's will lose their seats in three weeks time.

    Labour offering nothing....the Tory party devoid of idea's and many will lose their seats......the future looks bleak because of FPTP's archaic out of date voting system....Belarus are the other country in Europe using it..
     
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    Are fake accounts effecting voters opinion ?

    There is no evidence to support the claim that automated "Bot" accounts by GenZBloomer are by Remain UK.

    Documented attempts by hostile Foreign Powers such as Russia to sow division and prompt particular points of view during western elections.

    They have used networks of what social media firms call "authentic accounts " and what users call "Bots" or "troll farms"

    PS.....Recently.we had an attacck on the NHS....which included the St Thomas's and Kings groups of hospitals.....causing thousands of cancellation's of important appointment's including cancer cases.....I personally have been waiting for a scan appointment which just seems lost in the void of lost appointments.

    And dare I also mention the successful undermining of "Brexit" ever since we left the failing EU.

    If we disregard all this as fanciful thinking...then we under estimate what countries like Russia are doing in their "war" against the west....National Service might have to happening to remind Russia that we are taking their threats seriously..
     
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    They do among those that use social media for their main source of news - and that's pretty much everybody younger than about 35.

    It's not the whole point whether fake posters are supported by the party concerned: if they are spawned by hostile powers, then it's because those hostile powers promote those opinions and parties that they think will damage the UK. Surprise, surprise, it's Reform. And just because they're hostile, it doesn't mean they're wrong: Reform will damage the UK.

    There are however direct parallels between this and the disinformation that was pumped out to the uninformed during the Brexit campaign. It was cleverly aimed at susceptible target groups and played on their prejudices, Many in Reform, pretty much by definition, were in that Brexit mafia.
     
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    After sending cars up railway lines and lorries up tiny lanes, satnav really gets it wrong in Falmouth:

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    Petrol companies making hay before their sun sets for ever.....you could say a battery of problems are facing them.
     
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    It's not the petrol companies (ESSO, Shell etc) it's the retailers and particularly the supermarkets lead by ASDA.
     
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    How two face can you get.....Sunak wants Boris to help the Torys win the next election.....they'll need to take the knife they put there... out of his back first.
     
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    This mess we’re in:
    • economy and diplomacy ruined by Brexit,
    • development of an extremist right wing in the Conservative Party,
    • A fascist Reform party gaining ground and eating at the fabric of democracy,
    • a cult of personality in which morality, professionalism and consensus government take second place to “character” and empty glibness,
    • a widespread belief that all politicians are liars, cheats and philanderers
    is largely down to Johnson and his soiled government.

    I don’t think we should be applauding him for doing the decent thing for once, assuming he’s not just doing it to position himself for a return to politics, God forbid.

    And after the stinking mess he made, he should have the decency to support the party he’s all-but destroyed as a whole, not individual candidates who he thinks are useful to him in order to weasel his way back into influence.

    Notably, he’s conducting what he’d like seen a as a noble gesture from holiday in Sardinia, probably at the expense of a rich backer seeking to buy political influence. That’s the sort of behaviour that got us in this mess in the first place.

    It’s also indicative of his belief that he doesn’t need to actually put in any effort or self-sacrifice: He won and conducted government by lurching from one crisis or scandal to the next with few jokes, bon mots and stupid stunts. It may be enough for the Daily Mail but it’s not enough to lead a nation.

    Let’s not forget either his enthusiasm for Donald Trump. There’s a lot of similarity between them I admit but does that sort of sycophancy lead you to believe his judgement is to be trusted?
     
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    How Donald Trump is a free man I'll never understand.......three and a half years ago he tried to usurp the parliament of the USA with his cronies taking over the seat.of government.....Russia and China must of been partying all night at the thought of the wests leading country being in such a chaotic state.

    Further down the line and now... we have an 81yr old and a 78yr old fighting to be the so called leader of the free world.......no wonder Vladimir Putin is challenging the wests so called dominance in Ukraine.

    If Trump wins the Presidency....we will have two men (him and Putin) who could easily start WW3 between them.

    Maybe the youngster 71yr old Xi Jinping of China might become the only sane answer to not having nuclear war thrust upon us.

    Lets hope he can control the idiot leader of N Korea....Kim Jong Un who would like to start the destruction of the world himself.....one of his ballistic missile warheads might just go astray and wipe out Japan....that is all it will need.....I bet the dinosaurs are pleased there not around anymore.
     
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    It’s become an extremely dangerous world with terrorism, rogue states and polarisation in many democratic countries.

    That’s why we need the technocrats in charge. The boring but extremely clever people of rational judgement and low profile with double-firsts from Ivy-League universities, not unpredictable rabble-rousers like Trump. Farage and Johnson - or Cornyn or Diane Abbott, let alone George Galloway who for some unfathomable reason was given a party political broadcast yesterday.
     
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    I can always tell when it is time to get my eyes tested.....I quite often hit the button next to the one I meant to.....like your Cornyn moment.
     
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    Bext key, near enough.
     
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    I daw what you did there.
     
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    Summer solstice this evening......heading now towards winter.....get the tinsel out Santa.
     
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