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  1. Plymborn

    Plymborn Well-Known Member
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    Educate me....wow....that sounds like a touch of illusions of grandeur...you really are full of yourself ...how wonderful to be so perfect....I bow to your supremacy ...I'll just meekly sit at your feet and learn.
     
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    Well you do post a load of right wing racist crap so somebody has to put you right. No need to thank me.
     
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    Yes, we can do without facts like:
    1. The economy will prosper outside the EU. Well one by one, the big multi-nationals are voting with their feet and taking their share listings off to New York.
      The IMF has labelled us as one of four large economies (with China, the US and Italy) that must address a critical imbalance between spending and tax revenue in order to cut borrowing. The US and China have high borrowing in part because they are in a trade war over production of strategic items such as computer chips and EV car batteries. We have no such excuse so that lumps us in with Italy.
    2. We will be able to obtain trade agreements better than the ones we had via the EU. Where are any significant deals? We’ve failed with Canada for crissake.
    3. We will be able to pursue our own foreign policy. The Americans hardly speak to us now.
    4. There’ll be £350.million a week extra to spent on the NHS. A sick joke that one - literally.
    5. And the real reason those who voted for it did so, we’ll be able to control our borders (ie keep those bloody foreigners out). How’s that going? It’s true you can’t get a plumber or an electrician, I will give you that. We’ll soon be able to dump illegals in Rwanda and the profound cost of undermining the power of the courts to resist illegal acts by the executive. Independent courts are a mainstay of the British constitution: in fact of any democracy. We weaken that at our peril. And before I hear wittering about the unelected Lords, this is exactly what a second chamber is supposed to do: block bad legislation. Neither do I want to hear about the will of the people. This is about right and wrong, not how many people believe a wrong thing. Black isn’t white just because enough people would vote for it.
     
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    Yes, we can do without facts like:
    1. The economy will prosper outside the EU. Well one by one, the big multi-nationals are voting with their feet and taking their share listings off to New
      The IMF has labelled us as one of four large economies (with China, the US and Italy) that must address a critical imbalance between spending and tax revenue in order to cut borrowing. The US and China have high borrowing in part because they are in a trade war over production of strategic items such as computer chips and EV car batteries. We have no such excuse so that lumps us in with Italy.
    2. We will be able to obtain trade agreements better than the ones we had via the EU. Where are any significant deals? We’ve failed with Canada for crissake.
    3. We will be able to pursue our own foreign policy. The Americans hardly speak to us now.
    4. There’ll be £350.million a week extra to spent on the NHS. A sick joke that one - literally.
    5. And the real reason those who voted for it did so, we’ll be able to control our borders (ie keep those bloody foreigners out). How’s that going? It’s true you can’t get a plumber or an electrician, I will give you that. We’ll soon be able to dump illegals in Rwanda and the profound cost of undermining the power of the courts to resist illegal acts by the executive. Independent courts are a mainstay of the British constitution: in fact of any democracy. We weaken that at our peril. And before I hear wittering about the unelected Lords, this is exactly what a second chamber is supposed to do: block bad legislation. Neither do I want to hear about the will of the people. This is about right and wrong, not how many people believe a wrong thing. Black isn’t white just because enough people would vote for it.
     
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  6. Plymborn

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    BETTER LATE THAN NEVER.

    Richard Wilson immediately recognised his sisters handwriting on the envelope addressed to his son...Alfie.

    The transport modeller from ...Reading Berkshire.....was curious to know why Alfie's aunt would be writing to her nephew...so much so that he paid Royal Mail a £2.50 fee to receive the card as the first class stamp was apparently " no longer valid for postage"...according to a yellow sticker fixed to the envelope.

    Opening the card this week he read the message...."To Alfie...lots of love on your first birthday...from Auntie Sally and Uncle Pat"....The card was finished with a kiss...but as touching as it was...there was something slightly off about its timing....For one...Alfie's birthday had come and gone six months prior in October....For another...he was now nine.

    As it turned out...Royal Mail had failed to deliver the birthday card for eight and a half years.....It was unsurprising that the stamp was invalid...as it was attached to the letter in 2015 and thus did not have the bar code that was introduced in 2022 and became a legal requirement last year.

    Thinking the £2.50 fee he had just paid was a tad unfair...Mr Wilson complained to Royal Mail on X....Mr Wilson was refunded £10.80 and was sent a book of eight first-class stamps....Royal Mail also sent his son Alfie a £10 cheque ...."to buy himself something"...as a gesture of good will.

    A Royal Mail spokesman said the company "could not speculate" on why the letter remained undelivered for nearly a decade.

    Daily Telegraph...19/04/2024.
     
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    Well here’s interesting.

    Last night, when I went to bed, the BBC had a splash on their website front page.

    This said they’d got their hands on un-redacted documents showing the investigation by Deloittes into the Post Office’s Horizon system had had shown significant numbers of “toolbox” transactions inserted by Fujitsu. When sub-masters began legal action, the Post Office buried the investigation under guidance from their legal counsel. The BBC said the David Cameron Government ministers knew this. The Post Office then killed the report on the advice of its legal counsel, Legal opinion is that this could constitute perverting the course of justice by the Post Office. The full implications of Deloittes has not been declared to the inquiry.

    This morning, that story seems to have gone. I wonder why?
     
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    I'm a bit teary this evening, not because of the Argyle result but I've just belatedly watched the film One Life, telling the story of Nicholas Winton on Netflix.

    Sir Nicholas George Winton MBE (né Wertheim; 19 May 1909 – 1 July 2015) was a Hampstead merchant banker (a tax dodging Jewish bastard in modern parlance) who cancelled a Swiss skiing holiday in December 1938 to help out some chums in Prague. There he found thousands of Jewish refugees who'd fled the Nazis for the supposed safety of Czechoslovakia, Amongst thousands of others, he saw a 10 year old girl, in awful conditions, trying to protect a tiny baby, which he presumed was her sibling. It was not. It was a random and unrelated baby the 10 year old had taken under her wing. He was unable to save them and both died.

    Winton and his mother intimidated a civil servant to rubber stamp obviously bogus immigration documents to bring 699 children to safety in the UK in the so-called "Kindertransport". Of 250 more children leaving on the last train on the day way was declared, only 2 survived the war. Winton served in the RAF during the war as a conscientious objector. He lived in prosperous obscurity until 1988, when he was "outed" on the "That's Life" program after he tried to donate his files to various museums and academic institutions. He was knighted by the then Queen in 2003.

    How that heroism contrasts with the today's zeitgeist.
     
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    I do feel sorry for Sir Mark Rowley the Metropolitan Police Commissioner....I feel that he was caught between a rock and a hard place regarding the Jewish man who wanted to cross the road as a Palestinian march was passing buy.

    The man concerned was obviously Jewish....he was wearing his hat...(I think they're called a Kippot).....If the police had allowed him to cross it could have caused a disturbance amongst some of the more militant Palestinian supporters.....and by not allowing him it looked as if he was being stopped crossing the road because he was a Jew .

    I personally feel that these Palestinian marches have been at times used by some as a support for Hamas.....but I also think that this Jewish man knew what he was doing and he knew that he could have caused a disturbance by his actions.

    Sir Mark Rowley and most other recent RPM's in London have always been on a knife edge with Sadiq Khan who has the ability to sack them if he feels they are not following his ideas on how to police London.
     
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    Isn’t it ironic that the House of Lords is being accused of being “border-line racist” in its scepticism regarding the safety of Rwanda when the whole Rwanda scheme is intended to pander to racist voters.
     
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    The Jewish man went to the demonstation with his kit on and a camera crew ready to film whatever trouble he got into. For anyone to claim that this bloke "just wanted to cross the street" is clearly talking bullshit. He set out to cause a problem if he could and the Sargent was quite right to tell him to bog off. I have been listening to this saga on the radio this morning and several Jewish persons trying to justify what he did and condemn the Police for not doing to the mass. Not one of them who quoted the law said that their man, because quite clearly he was, should have been arrested for intending to insite riot. In this instance I don't believe the Copper was being racist at all but was just doing his job in trying to prevent a much bigger problem. No matter how loud the Jewish community shout in this case I actually think this is doing them a diservice rather than enhancing any argument they are putting forward.
     
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    I agree with both of you. Demonstrators shouldn't be allowed to curtail the lawful activities of the general public, let alone to threaten anyone.

    One the other hand, the majority of Jews have been concerned for their safety with good reason: kids have abused on their way to school etc. That's totally unacceptable. But this guy is an activist and seems not only to have sought out the demonstration but intended to walk out in the middle of it.

    This perhaps provides a more balanced analysis of what happened. It seems the police offered to escort him over to a group of Jews who were waving Israeli flags where he would be safe and able to exercise his democratic rights, but that wasn't acceptable to him.

    https://news.sky.com/story/sky-news...tism-campaigner-called-openly-jewish-13120104

    There's right and wrong on both sides but we cannot forget that this was started by a barbarous terrorist attack on civilians, men women and children.
     
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    The Populist-Nationalist government of Robert Fico in Slovakia has pledged not to send "one more round of ammunition" to the Ukraine.

    BUT....a crowd-funding campaign in Slovakia has already raised over a million euros in support of Ukraine in quite a short time.
     
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    I don't agree notdistant that there is right and wrong on both sides. It is more accurate to say there is wrong on both sides and no particular right. This has been going on for way longer than the terrorist attack. That was barbarous but the treatment of the people of the West Bank has also been that over the years. Palestinians send rockets over the borders and Israelies shoot inhabitants of the villages and steal their land to settle on. The response to the barbarous attack has become way over the top to be called anything but revenge rather than defence. The number of dead and hostages on the Israel side has been multiplied by 20 on the Palestinian side. The vast majority of the population on Gazza has nowhere to live and dhas been starved. This has also included many women and children. If Israel had taken their revenge and then stopped what looks like genocide now then they may well have much more sympathy from the wider public. However what they are doing is genocide and people generally do not approve and are showing it.
     
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    Well as I said before, the fact that neighbouring Arab states aren’t queueing up to take in refugees from Gaza suggests they know full well if they do, there’ll be Hamas terrorists coming over too, looking for new places to plant their evil.

    In fact, their only active backers are Iran really. Judge them by the company they keep.
     
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    I am not defending Hamas although is there much of a difference to them and the original "terrorist" Jewish fighters who created Israel? They are not a group worthy of sympathy but the Palestinians of Gazza are in my view. I heard a bloke on the radio today say it's their own fault as they elected Hamas. Did they though? Did Rusians elect Putin or the North Koreans elect the idiot fat bloke they have. There may have been elections but how much the people of the place had a genuine say in the outcome has to be debatable.
     
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    I have never been a Harry Potter fan.....and have never understood the wave of support for this fantasy world of seven books written over a 10 year period and the multi-million £ spin offs that have happened...including theme parks etc.

    But I do understand JK Rowling and her stance against the transgender world and her view that basically it is men in dresses.

    Also her " Freedom of speech and belief " view that..... would be at an end if accurate description of biological sex was outlawed....as the Scottish SNP government new law depicts.

    Not keen on her books but am keen on her sensible view of life....which many see as a hate and racial crime approach....we have lost our moral compass....and any one who talks against this political correct world is seen as a racist.

    PS.....I do remember years back my 9yr old grandson being adamant that he wanted a Harry Potter wand for his birthday ....it was basically a 12 inch stick....cost £29...strewth.
     
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    Heartbroken Coventry fans who where in seventh heaven when there team scored what looked like the winning goal last Sunday...only to be crushed by the video referee deciding that it was off-side .......because their player was wearing size 10 boots which stuck out more than the size 9's that the defender was wearing.......or his laces showed beyond the defenders laces....... or his finger nails where too long....etc...etc....(you get the gist of what I'm saying)...will be interest to read...although it's too late for them now the following.......

    "Sweden has become the first country to refuse to use the video assistant referees....following a fan revolution.

    The president of the Swedish Football Association...Fredrik Reinfeldt....confirming VAR would not be implemented in its competitions having previously proclaimed the system "our future".

    The climbdown reflects Swedish clubs being at least 51% fan-owned ...and the fierce resistance among supporters to the technology.

    The introduction of VAR in Norway last year also prompted protests".

    Ben Rumsey...Daily Telegraph Sport.....27/04/2024.
     
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