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  1. notDistantGreen

    notDistantGreen Well-Known Member

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    Well we could speculate on what's going on in the minds of those that started and contributed to the fund. I doubt it's pleasant.

    I'd refer you to Jermaine Defoe. Despite his face being on the sports pages every week, it did not stop Essex police stopping him almost as frequently as he put on his boots whilst driving his expensive cars about. Can we spot any similarities?
     
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    Isn't it wonderful to live in a free country defended in part by a free press faithfully presenting events in an honest, balanced and informative way . Let's take this morning's headlines as an example:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-67281086

    Quiet a divergence of emphasis of the self same facts there.

    I'm disappointed with the Star. It's usually right at the bottom and consists of something moronic but even they've felt compelled to refer to actual news on this occasion, albeit thinking necessary to provide a picture of a clown to assist the hard of understanding. I am intrigued by "Grassed Up By Your Cat" I have to admit.
     
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  3. Plymborn

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    Good to see the SUN has got it's priorities right....of course Robbie Williams is more important.
     
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    well these comics print anything to get people to read it, i havent bought one in over 25 years

    I have just watched the wagatha Christie on disney ,, they dont like the sun .. its ok to watch as is the Beckham one, im watching messi meets america.. I dont watch normal tv but strted to watch this **** and it was ok.. has anyone sen the Ian holloway manger hot seat .. what it takes to be a top manager ?? its ok
     
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    Sad as it sounds I watch the Soaps. However, I would clarify that statement in that it is the only thing my other half likes to watch other than the News Channels at times. The odd quiz thing also which keeps the mind active but sends my blood presure up when they have a load of dodos as contestants. The lack of general rubish knowledge by some is astounding. Newspapers I never bother with except the Herald argyle news online.
     
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    I’m intrigued to read that Donald Trump Jnr told his father’s fraud trial that although he’d run the family property businesses, he had no idea how the properties were valued. This is rather like an airline pilot saying he didn’t know how to fly.

    He also said the company accountants did the valuations and any error was their fault. I can only speak to UK arrangements but I’m sure it’s the same in the US. The management provide the valuations using specialist property advisors and the accountants audit them. Now if those numbers are wrong, the auditors may be guilty of incompetence but it is the management who own the valuations and are guilty if the values have been manipulated.

    Liar, liar pants on fire.
     
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  7. Plymborn

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    Next door has got his Range Rover back.....Police found it in Essex .....a bit of internal damage....they made a mess of trying to remove the built in tracker device.

    So the Police charged him £200 for taking it to their compound at Charlton....it cost him another £200 to recover it from there to his driveway.

    Repairs to the car including new tracker fitting...new number plate registration....etc...will cost him roughly £1000....if he had used his car insurance he reckons that it would have cost him more than that because of higher insurance charges and lost no claims bonus.

    A lot to be said for a 13 year old Citreon C3 sitting next door to his Range Rover......which can't be worth much more than the £1000 that he has paid out to rectify his Range Rover.
     
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    I wake up this morning to UK news dominated by Nadine Dorries, a moronic, attention seeking failed politician and Suella Braverman, a poisonous fascist seeking to become leader of one of the great British political parties. I’m sickened. And I’m a natural Conservative voter….
     
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    Marcus Rashford's red card.....where was the foul....a single frame looks horrendous I must admit...but the video viewing shows clearly that Rashford was shielding the ball not standing deliberately on the players foot......the player was coming into contact with Rashford.

    VAR is bringing more problems than it solves....and is bringing the game to a stand still for far to long.
     
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  10. sensiblegreeny

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    Surprise surprise you will not be to find I am not a natural Tory voter. However I have voted Tory a number of times in my voting life and do not affiliate myself to any one party. I prefer to look at what they are proposing at the time before making judgement. I too was appalled at what I was hearing from Braverman and obviously not for the first time. The woman is dangerous and if Sunak has any sense at all he will bin her at the first opportunity. Not that I would cast a vote in his direction anyway but he still needs to get rid. Everytime she opens her mouth she incites hatred. I am ex Service as you know and I for one do not think a march is in any way disrespectful to Rememberance. It seems to me that people went to war and died so that there would not be any more wars and for the freedom of people all over the World. How then on the day we are asked to remember that can a march in aid of a war ending and people being supressed be wrong. Braverman is almost inviting the thugish idiots to attend and start a fight with the marchers. Sunak was on the edge of her camp until there was a backlash from her words with many and now he is trying to distance himself from it. All he does is chuck a hat into the ring, see which way the public lean and then change tack to encompass that. More interested in next years election possibilitites than he is achieving anything now.
     
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    Well some suspect she’s trying to get sacked to appeal to the rabid maniac wing of the party in a leadership election following a defeat in the next election.

    There’s an investigation into whether she followed party rules before letting her piece be published. No 10 is already saying she didn’t as she didn’t make alterations she’d been told to. We’ll see what happens with that.

    In the meantime, has she stirred up a hornets’ nest from which right wing extremists attack a legal if inappropriate pro-Palestinian march? It’s a fine thing when the Home Secretary provokes a riot.
     
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  12. sensiblegreeny

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    I can't agree with the "inappropriate" tag. The march is not to support Hammas but to try to get Israel to stop bombing civilians who have no control over what Hammas are doing. I have no doubt that what they are doing is way over the top now and is nothing short of revenge rather than a solution.
     
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    Christian holidays have been excluded from the National Trust's inclusion calendar ...triggering a back-lash from members.

    While Diwali. Eid and Ramadan feature in the heritage group's "inclusivity and wellbeing" calendar, distributed to volunteers, Christmas and Easter go unmentioned.

    The issue was raised by a volunteer amid angry scenes at its annual meeting., where the Trust was accused of rigging an election to get favoured candidates voted on to its council.

    Meanwhile, David Lamming, a trust member from Suffolk, told the meeting the calendar issue had been raised with him by a concerned volunteer.

    He said "It doesn't include the Christian festivals of Christmas and Easter. can we have an explanation please for those being omitted.

    His question prompted a loud round of applause from the audience ...one of whom later said it was a sign that the heritage group had become "too woke" the trust curation director...said..."I'm really clear there is no such internal discrimination."

    Paragraphs from an article in todays....Sunday Telegraph...12/11/2023.


    I've been a member of the National Trust for many years......and it seems to me that it has been taken over by a weird grouping that is doing its own thing without taking into account the wishes of the remaining 99.99% of the membership.
     
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    I'm afraid I can well understand and support righteous fury against cowardly pigs who've shot infant children in the head, raped and murdered women, fired primitive rockets into civilian areas and hunted unarmed and fleeing festival goers as though they were rabbits.

    It's Hamas that hide in bunkers below hospitals and hold their own compatriots hostage to protect themselves by refusing to let them flee south. Let's not forget either that Hamas were ELECTED to govern back in 2006, defeating its nearest rival Fatah, also a terrorist group. Vote for terrorists and this is what you get.

    If these cowards would come out and fight instead of cowering in the dark, we wouldn't be seeing the level of the casualties in the civilian population that we are.
     
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    Well I can't. The fury bit I get as it was a cowardly attack on civilians in the first place that started this but you cannot blame the civilian population of Gaza for what Hamas did and if there was any sort of free vote and true democratic elections then I have little doubt that Hamas would not be voted in by the vast majority.. The initial response was perhaps understandable but what is happening now is nothing short of punishment and revenge rather than anything else and that is being handed out to the civilians not Hamas. I don't condone anything that Hamas has done either but this is not the answer. You might also be aware that the way wars are fought these days by what is usually a massive underdog militarily is by a sort of hit and run and hide strategy, They have learned that it works. Vietnam was the perfect example of it. Afghanistan did it twice. Israel even did it when setting up the Country. They were terrorists killing British Troops at that time. So why wouldn't organisations like Hamas do it now. They may be fanatical but they are not stupid. They know full well they are not going to win anything by digging a trench and taking on the might of Israel from there.
     
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    I don’t think the IDF are killing civilians deliberately and therein lies a fundamental difference. You don’t shoot a child in the head at close quarters by accident. There’s no excuse, no equivocation you deserve what you get.

    It’s said 10 children were tied together and set on fire. It’s not been made clear if they were already dead. You’ll remember that ISIS captured a Jordanian fighter pilot, put him in a metal cage and lit a fire under it. The video is probably out there on TikTok. And then there were the beheadings with blunt instruments.

    We have a Muslim family in our street. They are lovely people. They have an allotment and the very senior generation toddle off there every day. They grow herbs and when we need some rosemary for Sunday lamb, we have an open invitation to pop down and pinch some from their garden. They bring us homemade pakoras at Christmas. At Christmas mind you. I’d go to war as best I’m able if anyone gave them grief.

    I can’t blame the Israelis for finally sorting the animals they face out though, who no god would have their name taken vain by.
     
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    But the IDF are killing civilians deliberately. They know full well where the civilians are and they also know full well that the vast majority of them just want a life with their families and do not want what Hamas gives them. If you pull the trigger to send a missile into a populated area then you know full well that civilians will die. All they will succeed in doing is creating the next generation of Palestinians who hate Israelies with a vengance. If they slaughtered my family I would hate them and so would you if you are honest.

    This area will never be sorted out by fighting. The Israelies took the land from the Palestinians back in the day. There were families who had land and a home who were basically kicked out of it. The Israelies claim that it is their land and it was taken from them. How far back in history do you go? When this happened in Nigeria and the white farmers were kicked off the homestead the whole world thought that was wrong. In this case though the whole world (western) thought it was right and recognised the new state. Double standards there and if anyone tried this in Britain then we would kick off big time and fight back. Ukraine anyone? Neither side in this has sat down to talk out any sort of solution and until they do this will simply continue. It might end with thousands upon thousands dying this time but the factions will return in due course and 5/10/`50 years from now the world will be back to this. Bombing the **** out of families who do not have a say no matter how glibly this is claimed and who cannot fight back either against the bombers or their own dumb leaders will solve nothing.
     
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    So Hamas are untouchable because they hide amongst the civilian population and have their main hideaways underneath hospitals.....and are promising to do October 7th all over again.

    Okay so do Israelis just lie down and accept their fate of being pushed into the sea to oblivion....because Hamas do not recognize the rules of war.

    Palestinians need to stand up and be counted and although it will be hard to go against Hamas....that is what they need to do....the IDF will continue hunting down Hamas killers whatever.

    To say that the IDF are killing civilians deliberately is rather stupid.....with over 2 million people in Gaza a small area how can civilians be safe from the war.

    Some Palestinians have started to rebel against Hamas....may it continue.....the IDF have supplied fuel to one of the Hospitals but Hamas have stopped it being used....the lowest of scum.
     
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    Nowhere in anything I've posted have I said Hamas are untouchable. Indeed if you read it I have said more than once the opposite. However, that does not give the IDF carte blanche to simply bomb anything in their way. If you know there are a whole bunch of civilians in an area or house or building and you simply bomb it anyway then you are doing it deliberately. That isn't stupid it is a fact. You are not in Palestine and therefore have no idea who is rebelling against who or even that Hamas are stopping anything. There is little in the way of news coming out of there and you can only rely on information from unknown sources. Now don't get me wrong. I have no doubt if it serves whatever purpose they have they would stop it. There is a big mistake though to believe one side without question over the other here. Both will say whatever they want you to believe.

    So mister brave boy sitting in his front room in Kent, if you were living in Gaza what exactly would you do? Stand up to Hamas without any means to back that and leave your family to face the consequenses? If you had somebody stood in your house with a gun to your families head and they told you to piss out of the window then you would. What you would not do is say no and fight them. The bottom line to all of this is they will never resolve anything until they BOTH sit down and talk. Israel are not blameless as they allow their citizens to squat on land that wasn't their's and take pot shots at Palestinians across the hill. Not a guess or something I've heard on the net or newspaper. It has been reported more than once in more than one place including a BBC news report. You must be gutted today now that Braverman has been sacked.
     
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    More concerned about about Cameron being back....he was the reason Brexit happened....and then he ran away.... and left others to deal with it.
     
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