The ill-advised Brexit vote is in the process of trashing the UK economy - see this week's news: Business confidence low Economy contracting at the highest rate since 2009 An interest rate cut now imminent to try to stimulate the economy in contrast to the increase expected only weeks before the vote to choke off unsustainable growth There are far-right neo-Nazi groups in Germany who make the simple minded loonies in UKIP look like kittens. I agree that flows of people into the EU from outside it haven't been properly controlled but over there, migrant hostels have been burnt down over a period of years. Those flows of people from the Middle East and Africa, containing a number of terrorists, have nothing to do with free movement WITHIN the EU. The latter was the casus belli of the Referendum and we've seen ugly behaviour against well educated and hard working Poles even here in Plymouth since the thugs were given the upper hand by the vote. There is also a nasty minority in the Conservative party the vote has brought them to the fore too.
We have not got the people or equipment to man or patrol the borders.. that has been highlighted in the news today. 2 Police motor bikes with armed officer .. wow.. With these morons kicking off against the eu citizens, they should be expelled not the poles.. Economy is shrinking.. a recession will be unstopable..
You are wasting your time trying to tell the lemmings what lies over the cliff. Everytime one comments it's to say that nothing has happened. Bit like old Nelson with his telescope asking what ships. It's all good news, nothing to see here so move along. It's all waiting to happen but it won't be anything to do with what they voted for of course. I looked up the price of stuff in Belgium today and there has been a 10% rise in cost. The pound versus euro has already dropped that much. The one thing I will at least partially agree with is that most of the terror activity that has taken place across Europe recently has been from people who were already living there and not imported. In other words home grown. The free movement makes it easy for these people to go where they like although they have tended to stay within the Countries they live in rather than cross borders. There will always be sympathisers in every Country so closing the borders won't stop what is happening.
Agreed, interest rates coming down today it is suggested? not a good sign. It could be 0% soon . Well we were ticking along nicely and then the vote out and sent us backwards.. It will affect all of us in one way or another.. Its slowing down..
Ticking along? In another 12 months we'd have been racing along to the extent that the BoE would need to apply the brakes. We'd have been moving nicely to a balanced budget. That's already had to be jettisoned. Moody's and S&P have reduced the UK's credit rating so the larger amounts we'll borrow will be at higher interest rates to compound the problem. Local news today is that the UK government looks likely to welch on the promise to make good on the EU subsidies to Cornwall. Farm subsidies are in doubt and the A358 road improvement to link the M5 with the A303 is at risk. It will be the Dawlish rail improvement next. All very bad for the South West...
A balanced budget, that was never going to happen under Osborne....he would have continually back dated it and screwed us all to the floor. Getting rid of Cameron & Osborne is Brexits best achievement as yet....it's obvious that Prime Minister May couldn't stand either of them. The doubters in Brexit are showing no patronism towards the UK......they are bad losers and actually delighting in how things in these early weeks are panning out......sounds more like being traitors towards their country and the rule of democracy.....17million voters said no more.....just watch the EU and its obsession with Federalism.....leaders that we have never voted for and have no control over....it is truly frightening to behold.
Wrong on both counts. What's had to be abandoned is any hope of a balanced budget given damage being done by Brexit. We aren't doubters: all were warned the economy would be severely damaged but the Brexiteers claimed the warnings given by respected bodies were lies. In fact, it was Johnson, Gove and Garage who lied: the damage has started and will get much worse.
So patriotism is standing by with the old fiddle whilst your ecconomy burns and your beloved country goes down the swanee is it? What the fecking hell is patriotic about turkeys voting for christmas. You seriously are deluded about politics if your only criteria for wanting something is to get rid of the ones you don't like and don't want under any circumstances. They got voted in and because you and a lot of others were sore losers you took revenge when you could. That's as good an argument as turning opinion now into the same sore loser statement. I am not a sore loser. I happen to think that those who voted out are mad and totally wrong. I never thought it would be good for the country and the financial warnings are about to prove that right. I would have been saying the same whichever party were in power. You lemmings on the other hand did not consider this country you claim to be so patriotic about. All you wanted to do was give the elected government a bloody nose which had nothing whatsoever to do with the subject at ahand. Your posting above just bears that out. A sore loser is somebody who throws toys out of the pram over something that doewsn't really matter much. This however matters greatly and is a bit more than just being petty because the vote went wrong.
I agree, the vote went wrong because they were all anti cameroon and Osbourne. If they had listened to them, i'm not saying all they said was true. Osbourne was a good chancellor and told us what would happen, now its started. Downwards for a while now.. Jobs will start to go, will these people who then voted out still think the same. Yes Cameroon and his mate have gone, so will the jobs and the economy. The country was going forward well and plenty of jobs and people had a bit of extra cash. Now its all up in the air again..
You will never persuade these people that they caused anything. The entire world could end and it still wouldn't be anything to do with them. They got what they wanted which was a change in PM and a snub for the Tories. They DID NOT vote for the european question in the main they voted for exactly the former. They achieved this and still think it's good news despite the cost to themselves which as said they didn't cause anyway. Idiology is never a good reason for anything if it just throws commonsense out with the baby and bath water. If anyone thinks an ideal is a good thing then they must agree with the terrorists who do what they do for that reasoning according to their own justification.
Nissan have said this morning that there will be no investment in their plant at Sunderland until the see the shape of the deal with the EU. And so it starts.......
OK fellow greens....I'll just say the following over the EU referendum and then shut up on the subject.....the football season is only a day away and we need to concentrate on that and the prediction league that Joe is kindly doing again this year......I shall not respond to any comments that this post may bring. 1.....David Cameron felt that he could finish the whole issue about being in or out of the EU by allowing a vote....the result being a sound IN vote that would show him as being right about the UK's future, that it would be best being in the EU and trying to change it from the inside rather than leaving. 2.....He also felt that by winning this referendum he would stop forever those within his party that where eurosceptics from becoming a strong force of opposition to his Premiership. 3.....By winning a referendum he also felt that he would knock back Nigel Farage and the UKIP party and show that the country was behind him. 4.....Cameron's and Osbourne's judgement on the issue never took into account that they would ever lose a referendum vote. 5.....This meant that appallingly they had never planned for being defeated.....and so had no back up programme on how to withdraw from the EU. 6.....Having lost the vote by over a million majority to leave....Cameron then resigned leaving a hugh mess behind him and a leadership hole when the country needed stabilizing....by resigning that morning he became a dead duck. 7.....Osbourne disappeared into the woodwork and kept his head down....his hard line policies that had caused so much pain to those who where working class had showed no compassion for those not so well off, he knew that he was doomed once Cameron had resigned. 8.....Cameron would always be known in future as the Prime Minister who took us out of the EU. 9.....He left a void behind him because he had not taken into account how the the UK would respond with both possible results...staying in an or getting out. 10.....The Brexit out vote meant that the Government where shown up as being unprepared for such a vote and brought on the mess that we at present see.....no planning whatsoever on how to proceed towards exiting the EU. 11.....Those that where Brexiteers where also shocked that the country had rejected the EU and never thought that they would be in a position were the Tory Government had under Cameron come crashing down. 12.....All this uncertainty caused a backlash and undermined the stability of the UK in many ways. 13.....With no planning in place and a Prime Minister opting out at this critical moment no wonder things became unstable. 14.....Until article 50 starts and the two years or so required to unravel ourselves from the EU things will be unstable....we need to get on with it and show the rest of the world that we are in control of our own destiny. 15.....When we our free finally from the EU club....things will start to improve and trade agreements will start to stablize this countries future.... that will happen....because the UK is an island that it's people feel more part of than being part of a European super state. 16.....The EU will continue to make Europe a federal state and they will move towards centralizing power...governed even more from Brussel's......so obvious also that they will develop their own defence force under a single leadership one day...hence a EU military controlled from the centre....the United States of Europe. As I said I will not respond to any comments....it will just rumble on otherwise.....looking forward to the future when all this is behind us and we become fully our own masters again.
Just a little factoid I picked up from a Robert Peston tweet. The difference between the 2.5% growth forecast for next year before the vote and the current forecast of 0.8%, applied over the 3 years it will take to cast ourselves adrift, is equivalent to 1 year's Govt spending on education lost to the Exchequer. That's £100 billion. Yes, £100 billion. Government spending is about 40% of GDP so that implies a loss of GDP of around £250 billion compared to what it would have been. That's assuming there's no damage beyond 3 years which there will be of course, probably quite substantial damage. We now have the markets demanding - guess what - an emergency budget to deal with the impending stagnation. The BoE is seen to have acted promptly but the Government is trying to put the problem off until the autumn. Remind me, did anyone say we'd need an emergency budget and what was the response? As the £ falls, inflation will rise and if we aren't careful we'll end up in stagflation. Well done those who don't like mixing with foreigners.
Not just poor service....have been looking through photos (on another Argyle site) taken in the queue to pick up season tickets this week.....the state of the place is awful...needs more than a lick of paint around the ticket office.....weeds all around the place.....debri blowing around everywhere.....and the picture taken of the skip and surrounding area is unbelievable.....haven't the club got any pride in keeping the place smart and tidy....to show that Argyle is a club that is going places...........
Not just poor service....have been looking through photos (on another Argyle site) taken in the queue to pick up season tickets this week.....the state of the place is awful...needs more than a lick of paint around the ticket office.....weeds all around the place.....debri blowing around everywhere.....and the picture taken of the skip and surrounding area is unbelievable.....haven't the club got any pride in keeping the place smart and tidy....to show that Argyle is a club that is going places...........
Like I said Turkeys voting on Christmas. As long as Cameron got a bloody nose then whatever the cost of it was worth it. Fecking idiots. Also as said this uncertainty and the financial foreboding is of course nothing to do with them. Yes it is you caused it. Not Cameron, not Osbourne you people did it. Don't look to put the blame on anyone else just look in the mirror. Thanks a bunch my savings are worth diddly **** now and it could be worth less than that in the near future. Does the football start tomorrow?
